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Dark Sovereign: a complete open market for health care and insurance dose not work it leaves to many people without thus tax payers pick up the bill at X2-10 the price because they can tripple charge people for being a complicated emergency.... regulate it by forcing them to allocate X amount of profit and use that to subsidize the low end plans(ensuring all citizens under the 150K bracket can get them easily, they will of coarse get the better plans as they would not want the basic plans as they do not cover much), you can gain profit AND ensure your brothers are taken care of at the same time, unfettered greed is too corrosive for any society to properly mitigate it.

Then you can add taxes to those in the 80k+ bracket who use it they get less returns, the government stays in money, the industry is able to do what it wants as long as the low end is covered, also by forcing hem to save money out to subsidize it forces the industry as a whole to band together to make a efficient cheap system or lose all their government licenses.

Dark Sovereign: number 3 being millions with no healthcare leaving he fed and states dealing with losses due to healthcare concerns raising the prices of local hospitals and ect even more to off set the burden, unless you want hospitals to not take people and then why not make it a full blown free market with no rules....
you have to force the market to do something to deal with the complete spectrum in a reasonable manner.

Government should get into nationalized medicine make generics for the people it would make as much money as it would lose, health care itself (paying doctors and insurance and such) really needs to have its own market, it would also not hurt for them to license more doctors,dentists and such so there would be a drop in price.

Dark Sovereign:"Competitive market" is a misnomer as well, in a blind capitalistic setup it creates conglomerates that seek to maxize profit by raising cost on the end user, "profiteering" is a inherent issue when they can make grotesque profit at the cost of ignoring millions because they do not have to not take a loss on the grotesque, Government by default has to regulate business because business is becoming larger than it and its damaging government indirectly by ignoring the lower classes, thus government has to regulate business to ensure its not raping the populace and try and get business to aid the lower classes somehow.
If government cannot do this then it should go back to worrying about the border and infrastructure, let the states deal with the millions on disability or SSI let states run shanty towns for the great unwashed masses and all the death and disease that will ensue, as long as the middle and rich pay less taxes who cares right?

Dark Sovereign: you DO realize there were roving shanty towns and poor hosues before social secuty was started? they were hives for poverty and disease,hell with todays "cleanliness" in housing code you can not have them anymore and states will just force them into the wilderness to die off...this is the reality of not taking into account what to do with the lower classes.

Dark Sovereign: go back before social security when America was more like modern Mexico, you have masses of people unable to work need assistance to work, if the fed dose not do something the states will and if states ignore it they will have to spend twice as much to deal with the emergency.
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To simplify the mess above, yes Government should be smaller BUT if you ignore the lower masses they will stagnant and become a worse problem costing more money in the end.
Social security and health care keeps a large portion of people off the streets and out of crime as well as mitigate(ZOMG zippys new word to love><) diseases, the question is can they be managed better yes, dose health care need to be socialized probably not BUT leaving business to who's much to profit focused to deal with it is...well...ignorant IMO because they wont do it unless forced.

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