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nightwng2000
12-22-2006, 01:25 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16299656/

Didn't exactly see that coming.

Demontestament
12-22-2006, 01:46 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16299656/

Didn't exactly see that coming.

Why do I get the idea of rolling a character in DnD when I read this. I can see it now.

Parent: I want my kid to be an Elf Ranger with a third eye of true sight and ears of heightented hearing +5 his stats should be the following

Str: 16
Dex: 24
Con: 19
Int: 17
Wis: 19
Char: 25

My question is why in the **** would you want your kid to have a disability just because you do? What sane person would want to give their kid a disability and make them live with it just for the fact that they had to? Where is the logic in that?

KN
12-22-2006, 02:34 PM
Ah yes, this clears the way for children to literally sue their parents for having a disability.

Thefremen
12-22-2006, 03:12 PM
In before someong gives their kid lupus so they can say "it's lupus".

This is a very extreme example of "it builds character!". I wonder how the doctors can do this in good concious, after swearing to first do no harm?

Demontestament
12-22-2006, 03:14 PM
I wonder how long it will be before Calvin Clein starts designing babies for people.

Thefremen
12-22-2006, 03:25 PM
I wonder how long it will be before Calvin Clein starts designing babies for people.

Well a lot of people already achieve the results he'd want by smoking & drinking during pregnancy, formula feeding from day one, then switching to stuff they can't possibly metabolize at 2 months like rice cereal and apple juice.

KN
12-22-2006, 03:50 PM
I wonder how long it will be before Calvin Clein starts designing babies for people.

Calvin Clein is real person?

Thefremen
12-22-2006, 04:04 PM
Calvin Clein is real person?

Yeah he was even in an episode of Seinfeld.

Silver_Derstin
12-22-2006, 04:04 PM
I can see how this is a good thing for the military... Make future soldiers strong, fast, clever but also bloodthirsty, extremely submissive. With good genetic engineering, the world will belong to the army with the best soldiers!

Demontestament
12-22-2006, 04:07 PM
I can see how this is a good thing for the military... Make future soldiers strong, fast, clever but also bloodthirsty, extremely submissive. With good genetic engineering, the world will belong to the army with the best soldiers!

So they breed a bunch of Solid Snakes for Recon and Stealth Missions and Master Cheifs for the "Tatical Blowing **** Up/Combat" Misions?

Silver_Derstin
12-22-2006, 04:10 PM
So they breed a bunch of Solid Snakes for Recon and Stealth Missions and Master Cheifs for the "Tatical Blowing **** Up/Combat" Misions?

Come on, don't tell me you wouldn't want an army like that if you were a commander in chief?

steelcobra
12-22-2006, 04:10 PM
They tried that in Soldier. didn't work out too well.

Hank the Tank
12-22-2006, 05:39 PM
Wow... just... wow...

If the kid ever found out about it, he/she would hate his/her parents so much.

"You know all that humiliation you had to go through? Well it's all my fault so I wouldn't feel inferior to my offspring!"

kurisu7885
12-22-2006, 08:03 PM
It was only a matter of tiem before babies could literally be dragged int othe status game

Garbage Pail Kid
12-22-2006, 09:08 PM
That's selfish and sick.

“You cannot tell me that I cannot have a child who’s going to look like me,” Reynolds said. “It’s just unbelievably presumptuous and they’re playing God.”

http://www.hjo3.net/orly/gal1/orly_indian.jpg

And you're not?

Grifo said he wouldn’t oppose embryo screening to select a baby with a genetic defect if the parents have been informed of the pros and cons, risks and benefits.

It shouldn't be up to the parents. They aren't the ones who have to live the child's life.

Tyriku
12-22-2006, 09:43 PM
This...This is...This is HORRIBLE! What kind of sick and cruel people would do this to their own child? I thought perents wanted their kids to live better lives, not make them live their own! :(

ZippyDSMlee
12-24-2006, 01:55 PM
Why do I get the idea of rolling a character in DnD when I read this. I can see it now.

Parent: I want my kid to be an Elf Ranger with a third eye of true sight and ears of heightented hearing +5 his stats should be the following

Str: 16
Dex: 24
Con: 19
Int: 17
Wis: 19
Char: 25

My question is why in the **** would you want your kid to have a disability just because you do? What sane person would want to give their kid a disability and make them live with it just for the fact that they had to? Where is the logic in that?

A disability can create insight and a better "character" than the norm,if they can survive the heckling and bulling and other BS life tosses at you when you wear the kick me sign.

altho better parenting will do that do if not make them more stable and self.sufficient

nightwng2000
12-24-2006, 04:04 PM
The really deep D&D players probably would build some significant background story around the "disabilities" of their characters. I've never been that deep when playing an RPG on the computer. Like a lot of folks, I keep rolling stats until I get the best ones I see.

That, in a sense, is designing an individual with superior "genes". But I don't take advantage of designing the "less than perfect" individuals. Of course, I'm not sure that RPGs take advantage of lower stats beyond the "Failed Roll" calculations.

That would certainly open up some long term stories for individual characters if their negatives were played beyond the dice rolls.

But, as it applies comparison to the real world, when we create a PC, we are actually playing "God", not parent, to that which we create in a game. Technically, the "negatives" that we would design into the character would actually be natural, not chosen, "defects".

But a parent going to a doctor and asking them to manipulate, intentionally, the genetic structure of their child, thereby overriding the "natural" development....

The image that suddenly crossed my mind was that in creating a PC for an RPG, we ARE God. In the real world where we ask and actually do change genetic codes, then we are merely PLAYING at being God.

At least, that's the way it seems.

KN
12-24-2006, 04:40 PM
I want to breed superhuman clones of myself, and then just put my brain in there.

steelcobra
12-24-2006, 04:42 PM
Generic Destinies' Hooks and Triggers system allows for a bit of depth. Hooks cost 2 stat points each (feature hooks 4, Advanced Bloodlines in Naruto, for example), while Triggers give a 2 point bonus (4 if feature). During play, any rolls affected by a hook are highballed (tens die rolls 6, ones 8, it counts as 86), while triggers are lowballed (opposite). How well you integrate them into your characters play earns XP.

Darth_Toxic
12-24-2006, 04:46 PM
GOD. I was having a decent day, and then this crap crosses into my field of vision.

Anjin-San
12-25-2006, 08:53 PM
My baby would be a meta-baby. It would be comprised of individual babies that make a Voltron-esque ultrababy. It'd have shoulder missles.

Bad-ass.

Picho
12-25-2006, 09:53 PM
This may actually be a good thing, eventually we might have new races of humans...


Either that or we all will die in seven deadly plagues.

Kharne
12-25-2006, 10:35 PM
"desigener babys" kind of freak me out. Simply because I'm damn sure the following 3 things will happen in order:

1. Boys or girls become popular.

2. Everyone has a custom made boy or girl.

3. With everyone having just boys or girls, the gender balance becomes so unstable the human race becomes extinct due to a lack of child-bearing couples.

MisterS
12-25-2006, 11:32 PM
any parent that does that can burnComprehension is your friend. Please make this legible and understandable.-Toll:mad: :) :eek: :cool:

steelcobra
12-26-2006, 04:18 AM
Would someone with mod powers please stab this guy?

And Bill Gates isn't a bad guy. Computers wouldn't do anything they do now without him.

Hannah
12-26-2006, 07:22 PM
"desigener babys" kind of freak me out. Simply because I'm damn sure the following 3 things will happen in order:

1. Boys or girls become popular.

2. Everyone has a custom made boy or girl.

3. With everyone having just boys or girls, the gender balance becomes so unstable the human race becomes extinct due to a lack of child-bearing couples.

Sex selection already is popular in some places... apparently it's not that uncommon for parents to abort female children in parts of India and China.

Thefremen
12-26-2006, 09:52 PM
Would someone with mod powers please stab this guy?

And Bill Gates isn't a bad guy. Computers wouldn't do anything they do now without him.

Also, telephoens wouldn't do stuffs either. On the interwebs.

KN
12-27-2006, 10:36 AM
Also, telephoens wouldn't do stuffs either. On the interwebs.

Phone couldn't be used to destroy the lives of morons over the Intarwebs ^_^

Demontestament
12-27-2006, 11:57 AM
They tried that in Soldier. didn't work out too well.

Yeah but that was just the Beta Phase for this one. We now know that we need to create each solider from different DNA samples, thus there is no break down over time and we don't have One guy with silver hair walking around with a 8ft sword of overcompensation +12 and a emo blonde guy with a giant meat cleaver who is chasing said silver hair guy and then a bunch of rejects who wander around in black cloaks trying to make their own religion just to get tax breaks before Meteor comes down and kills us all. Instead of using Jenova I suggest we use something a little more sane and a whole hell of a lot more kick ass...I say we use Boba Fett.

steelcobra
12-27-2006, 12:11 PM
Not SOLDIER, Soldier, the Kurt Russell movie. They tried replacing combat veterans raised from birth with genetically engineered super soldiers.

Demontestament
12-27-2006, 12:33 PM
Not SOLDIER, Soldier, the Kurt Russell movie. They tried replacing combat veterans raised from birth with genetically engineered super soldiers.

But it was a Kurt Russell movie, that is why I thought you meant SOLDIER. The only thing you learn from Kurt Russell movies is they suck. Thats right I said it.

steelcobra
12-27-2006, 12:56 PM
You now officially suck for implying that Stargate sucks. Sure, the series is better, but that film rocked.

Demontestament
12-27-2006, 01:21 PM
You now officially suck for implying that Stargate sucks. Sure, the series is better, but that film rocked.

Stargate was ok but it lost points for having Kurt Russell in it, it is the same thing as getting Uwe Bowl to direct a movie, or not giving the award to Kanye West :D. And I agree the series is 100 time better, and bonus points for lack of Kurt Russell.

If you can't tell I hate Kurt Russell.