View Full Version : Anjin-San's out of line (again)
Thefremen
12-08-2006, 02:38 PM
I hate to bring this here but Anjin-san's thread deleting is way out of line. He comes on every blue moon, and comes in like a lion. The Bible Black thread was deleted, and last I checked discussing import games with questionable content is extremely relevant to this forum's interests.
Jokes and 4chan refrences aside, I fully expect the Jack Thompson thread to be closed every week or so, that's fine, it always gets out of line, but why close threads that are actually interesting? Why close threads that are at the heart of what GP is about? Hell, this particular one could have ended up spawning a front page story like a few others have in the past.
I hope if/when ECA has its own forums the rules for posts/threads are clear cut, all the mods are familiar with them, and most of all, they enforce the rules properly. It's the least I expect for my $20.
GamePolitics
12-08-2006, 03:14 PM
I've heard some gripes along these lines.
Taking a look...
BTW - after clearing up some issues on the personal front, I expect to be far more available now.
GP
kurisu7885
12-08-2006, 03:19 PM
I've heard some gripes along these lines.
Taking a look...
BTW - after clearing up some issues on the personal front, I expect to be far more available now.
GP
I hope everything's going well for ya man, we've been worried.
On a less important note, I still need my access back to the main site back ^.^;
GamePolitics
12-08-2006, 04:14 PM
thx for caring.
I feel the love...
:cool:
Anyway, yeah... I will fix that for you.
Share the wuv ^_^
Oh, Dennis, now that you're here...
The CAPTCHA does not work against bots. Never did. People figured out how to bypass this by now.
kurisu7885
12-08-2006, 05:20 PM
Share the wuv ^_^
Oh, Dennis, now that you're here...
The CAPTCHA does not work against bots. Never did. People figured out how to bypass this by now.
yeah. We've been bombarded by spambots at least once a week or more. T.T
Demontestament
12-08-2006, 05:32 PM
yeah. We've been bombarded by spambots at least once a week or more. T.T
The is only one way to solve this....Fire and lots of it.
Good to have you back Dennis :).
steelcobra
12-08-2006, 05:41 PM
http://nov.4chan.org/s/src/1165584383082.jpg
http://nov.4chan.org/s/src/1165584383082.jpg
Your image, it ish broken. Don't directly link to images on 4chan. Besides the fact that they disappear within a day or an hour, you can't hotlink.
ZippyDSMlee
12-09-2006, 12:03 AM
GamePolitics
hope is not "bad" personal stuff that gives you more free time 0_o
ga I know my life is like that ><
anyway for order to stay away from chaos Anjin-san neds to step in line with the other mods or the mods step in line with Anjin-san soemthign is out of balance here otherwise we would not be whineing so loudly.
*L*
Keep up the great ork with GP,GP...er Dennis bossu
...ggaaaa *runs off to smite the desu voice before it starts*
yeah. We've been bombarded by spambots at least once a week or more. T.T
We have? I don't remember seeing any spam posts on the forums...maybe the mods just exterminate them before I check in?
As to the Bible-Black thread, you guys may not like it, but that thread had pretty much devolved into LOLs hentai postcount+1 territory(because I'm totally not guilty of that last bit :p )
Dagrak
12-09-2006, 08:49 AM
We have? I don't remember seeing any spam posts on the forums...maybe the mods just exterminate them before I check in?
They tend to show up early morning (well late at night in the States) and infect as many threads as possible. They generally get the mod hammer as soon as people start waking up.
kurisu7885
12-09-2006, 12:18 PM
They tend to show up early morning (well late at night in the States) and infect as many threads as possible. They generally get the mod hammer as soon as people start waking up.
yes. I've gotten onto the site and seen many of the with the latest post has the same name for the latest poster, and I check, and it's ****ing spam, for gold farming sites and ****.
Grahamr
12-09-2006, 07:07 PM
Dennis has returned!!!! Death to Anjin-San! He is a mere traitor, a disgrace to GP! OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!!!!. KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Okay, whatever. I don't really have a problem with Anjin, but with traits like the ones fremen summarized, he doesn't deserve moderation abilities.
TrentHowell
12-11-2006, 03:17 AM
Dennis has returned!!!! Death to Anjin-San! He is a mere traitor, a disgrace to GP! OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!!!!. KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Okay, whatever. I don't really have a problem with Anjin, but with traits like the ones fremen summarized, he doesn't deserve moderation abilities.
agreed, the guy isnt even an active forum member, he only appears to lock threads. Never speaks or anything, plus some of his thread locks have been questionable at best.
ZippyDSMlee
12-11-2006, 03:32 AM
Dennis has returned!!!! Death to Anjin-San! He is a mere traitor, a disgrace to GP! OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!!!!. KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Okay, whatever. I don't really have a problem with Anjin, but with traits like the ones fremen summarized, he doesn't deserve moderation abilities.
*falls out of chair*
I am not willing to go that far,hes not very active and his moding style dose not match the others while each mod has a style of there own the one to go out of thier way to do stuff will be seen in the most light meaning the more you do mods work the more the fire will be put to your feet.
either the mods need to follow the clear letter of the rules like ajin is doing or ajin needs to follow the flow of the forum ,in all I thinks its best if ajin tries alot harder not to be heavy handed if he can and wants to change great if he doesn't he needs to lose mod status or at the least have other mods overturn some of his disscisions.
what ever GP decides I can live with it...hell I need to post less...I just leak brains all over the place anyway...:rolleyes:
steelcobra
12-11-2006, 03:53 AM
A proper Mod gives warning about what they think is not appropriate before just randomly locking it. And really, a mod does need to be on quite regularly so they aren't doing what Anjin did: breaking with the spirit of the boards and generally pissing people off.
ZippyDSMlee
12-11-2006, 03:57 AM
A proper Mod gives warning about what they think is not appropriate before just randomly locking it. And really, a mod does need to be on quite regularly so they aren't doing what Anjin did: breaking with the spirit of the boards and generally pissing people off.
*builds a nice roaring fire*
MAKE ME A MOD
*jumps in said fire*
*L*
Sorry but incoherence and multi speed IQ are never mod worthy requirements 0_o
*L*
Dagrak
12-11-2006, 10:01 AM
Okay, whatever. I don't really have a problem with Anjin, but with traits like the ones fremen summarized, he doesn't deserve moderation abilities.
If he has done something bad then a warning or casual discussion about mod style I can understand but seriously why is everyone calling for the extreme punishment of mod status removal? From what I've seen he hasn't done anything near justifying that.
EDIT: Read the black bible thread, sorry but I have to agree with Anjin and Toll.
steelcobra
12-11-2006, 10:14 AM
...Besides abuse of mod powers?
Dagrak
12-11-2006, 10:16 AM
...Besides abuse of mod powers?
He hasn't really abused them though, he hasn't for example been going through everyones posts and re-writing what they say.
No who ever would do such a thing?--Toll
Ace_ofspade
12-11-2006, 10:24 AM
What I really wonder is what he did to be made a mod. Did Dennis draw out of a hat when he did this or something? Theory is a regular and somewhere near the top in post count, Tollwutig is authoritative but fair, and Jabrwock's a no-brainer (Is Eisen even signed up in the forums?). But that leaves Anjin-San, Mediahostage, Beemoh, and BeardedFerrett. What did they do to deserve moddership?
Sea of mods. We're all drowning in a sea of mooooooods.
Anjin-San
12-11-2006, 11:41 AM
Ah yes. Here comes the tyrant, depriving you of hentai. I come here every morning during the week, and if you want, I'll have somebody log it. I can't be here all day, and with 8 mods...why exactly would I have to? As for a lock frenzy....there were two. And I had said my bad about the Michael Richards thread, and had even offered to speak through PM if you had a problem with my judgement calls. All I got was a bunch of negative fuzz.
Folks, numerical advantage is never a prerequisite to actually being in the right. So I'm not phased by a bunch of folks getting up in arms over a relatively small issue. I'd actually like to just throw this out there:
You may just have to think for a second, and grow up.
Theory?
12-11-2006, 11:47 AM
Ah yes. Here comes the tyrant, depriving you of hentai. I come here every morning during the week, and if you want, I'll have somebody log it. I can't be here all day, and with 8 mods...why exactly would I have to? As for a lock frenzy....there were two. And I had said my bad about the Michael Richards thread, and had even offered to speak through PM if you had a problem with my judgement calls. All I got was a bunch of negative fuzz.
Folks, numerical advantage is never a prerequisite to actually being in the right. So I'm not phased by a bunch of folks getting up in arms over a relatively small issue. I'd actually like to just throw this out there:
You may just have to think for a second, and grow up.
Maybe you should get in the habit of consulting with the other 8 mods before you go and delete something that isn't SPAM.
Grahamr
12-11-2006, 12:30 PM
What I really wonder is what he did to be made a mod. Did Dennis draw out of a hat when he did this or something? Theory is a regular and somewhere near the top in post count, Tollwutig is authoritative but fair, and Jabrwock's a no-brainer (Is Eisen even signed up in the forums?). But that leaves Anjin-San, Mediahostage, Beemoh, and BeardedFerrett. What did they do to deserve moddership?
That's what i want to know.
Actually, i think that Theory and Toll are the only REAL mods. Everyone else is just there for show.
On second though, maybe anjin should be allowed to keep his powers if he cleans up his act, but he's kind of acting like the antithesis of a good mod...the good mod is consistent,normally on, and is fair when locking threads ETC. Anjin san is either absent or excessive.
But really dennis, what DID Ferret,Anjin,Media and Beemoh do to get promoted?
And what about garret?
Garrett is Stealth Mod, much like the master thief he's named after.
When you see him, you will **** bricks.
Besides that, he's the only mod I remember next to Toll and Theory?.
ZippyDSMlee
12-11-2006, 12:45 PM
If he has done something bad then a warning or casual discussion about mod style I can understand but seriously why is everyone calling for the extreme punishment of mod status removal? From what I've seen he hasn't done anything near justifying that.
EDIT: Read the black bible thread, sorry but I have to agree with Anjin and Toll.
read the N word page and the other 2 or 3 hes whacked.
if anything his style needs to be looked at.
now about the black bible thread the worst thing on it was the link to the game itself,still didn't show anything about a R rateing now if a mod did his job he would have moved it to games since thats where it belongs or even OT would do,then he would remove link to game and re enforce the rules by saying no fcking links to anything with PG13 or higher pics in it its called doing your job locking a thread should be the last thing they do,it would be nice if a edit post warning was announced so people could fix their posts.
beemoh
12-11-2006, 12:50 PM
What I really wonder is what he did to be made a mod. Did Dennis draw out of a hat when he did this or something? Theory is a regular and somewhere near the top in post count, Tollwutig is authoritative but fair, and Jabrwock's a no-brainer (Is Eisen even signed up in the forums?). But that leaves Anjin-San, Mediahostage, Beemoh, and BeardedFerrett. What did they do to deserve moddership?
I'm another GP writeist (http://gamepolitics.com/2006/12/09/cpl/).
I have, as yet, seen no reason so far to use my mod powers, other than for deleting spam posts.
Dagrak
12-11-2006, 12:51 PM
read the N word page and the other 2 or 3 hes whacked.
if anything his style needs to be looked at.
now about the black bible thread the worst thing on it was the link to the game itself,still didn't show anything about a R rateing now if a mod did his job he would have moved it to games since thats where it belongs or even OT would do,then he would remove link to game and re enforce the rules by saying no fcking links to anything with PG13 or higher pics in it its called doing your job locking a thread should be the last thing they do,it would be nice if a edit post warning was announced so people could fix their posts.
I think when you have a page of comments about "dickgirls" you have to be prepared for a mod to step in. Some topics just aren't universal.
I agree with the N-Word thread, I didn't like how he handled it, but I still see no justification for calling for removal of his mod powers.
ZippyDSMlee
12-11-2006, 01:07 PM
I'm another GP writeist (http://gamepolitics.com/2006/12/09/cpl/).
I have, as yet, seen no reason so far to use my mod powers, other than for deleting spam posts.
we have 2 casts of mods with the same powers the commen mods who do day to day stuff and the "staff" / writers come in now and then to "help" ajin really needs to stop "helping" and focus on spam posts maybe even fixing misspelled titles now and then.
Dagrak
the trouble is multiply the N thread removal by 3 or 5 and you get odd thread locks coming from no where now and then,this is why it needs to be dealt with,he just breaks the current flow and theme of the forum.
Dagrak
12-11-2006, 01:13 PM
we have 2 casts of mods with the same powers the commen mods who do day to day stuff and the "staff" / writers come in now and then to "help" ajin really needs to stop "helping" and focus on spam posts maybe even fixing misspelled titles now and then.
Dagrak
the trouble is multiply the N thread removal by 3 or 5 and you get odd thread locks coming from no where now and then,this is why it needs to be dealt with,he just breaks the current flow and theme of the forum.
I've only seen him lock 2 threads recently, one of which I feel was misguided and one I feel he was right to lock. So I'm going to invoke the ancient MMO incantation with regards to the 3 or 5 example of screenshot it or it never happened...or in this case...link please.
I think that Anjin is actually doing the mod job as there is more to modding then just removing spam posts and spelling errors, theres also the matter of making sure the day to day users don't start misusing areas of the forum or posting stuff they shouldn't. I'm not saying he's perfect as people never are but I think there is a witchhunt being called here over something very trivial.
TrentHowell
12-11-2006, 01:19 PM
the whole thing is boiling down to unneccessary thread locks when simple post deletions/modifications are needed. The bible black thread probably coulda used some post deletions, but locking it no, mainly cause of the purpose of this site. Politics in gaming/controversies/general game discussion. Bible black falls under controversial simply cause its an H-game, that if politicians ever realized there are some games like that out there, their would be such a fall-out (or not, depending on the overreation).
But I am going to resonate the idea that mods need to be fully active members in the forum as well. You have to get to know the people your modding and its the posters its best to know the mod as well. Anjin only appears when he thinks something is objectional or in this thread which questions his ability to mod. This probably wouldn't be happening though if Anjin was actually active and every thread he does post in didn't get locked. In my opinion, mods are supposed to be active, social members that abide by the rules and keep the peace/enforcing the rules. Not an invisible hand that deals justice at its own discretion without consulting other mods.
ZippyDSMlee
12-11-2006, 01:20 PM
I've only seen him lock 2 threads recently, one of which I feel was misguided and one I feel he was right to lock. So I'm going to invoke the ancient MMO incantation with regards to the 3 or 5 example of screenshot it or it never happened...or in this case...link please.
I think that Anjin is actually doing the mod job as there is more to modding then just removing spam posts and spelling errors, theres also the matter of making sure the day to day users don't start misusing areas of the forum or posting stuff they shouldn't. I'm not saying he's perfect as people never are but I think there is a witchhunt being called here over something very trivial.
edits because I cant spell
if it were just me I wouldn't bitch about it but tis not just me meaning hes gathering a fan base and as thing evolve its not going to get better ,so in all tis best for the community to deal with it now if the community says to the 2-5 people that dislike him that hes just doing his job quite bitching about it then we 5 need to get inline OR we will have more posts and threads locked.
sicne we 5 are regulars we have the right to say we think hes going over the top he has a right to defend himself in the end its on GP to decide what needs to be done,in any case IMO hes heavy handed but then half the time MO suxs so meh to goes where it goes.
Anjin-San
12-11-2006, 01:30 PM
Maybe you should get in the habit of consulting with the other 8 mods before you go and delete something that isn't SPAM.
It's not deleted. I'm reading it right now. I closed it. Toll agreed.
http://www.gamepoliticsforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=15
Wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war wheel war
TrentHowell
12-11-2006, 01:37 PM
It's not deleted. I'm reading it right now. I closed it. Toll agreed.
http://www.gamepoliticsforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=15
Toll also agreed 3 hours after it happened, unless you were talking to him through pms or msn(or any other IM client)
If the thread was truly objectional content pure and throughout, it would've been deleted. Plus I didnt see you deleting the posts where you could get the game, Toll did it.......3 hours later
EDIT: so according to your lock post
This is a serious games subforum, not a hentai forum. You guys are more than capable of finding that sorta thing wherever it may be. Locked
you state the reason being this is not a hentai forum (despite the h in question was indeed a game and controversial) and alluding to the link to where to find it. Yet you locked the thread without deleting the post that had links to where the game is, something toll had to do.
ZippyDSMlee
12-11-2006, 01:44 PM
Toll also agreed 3 hours after it happened, unless you were talking to him through pms or msn(or any other IM client)
If the thread was truly objectional content pure and throughout, it would've been deleted. Plus I didnt see you deleting the posts where you could get the game, Toll did it.......3 hours later
EDIT: so according to your lock post
you state the reason being this is not a hentai forum (despite the h in question was indeed a game and controversial) and alluding to the link to where to find it. Yet you locked the thread without deleting the post that had links to where the game is, something toll had to do.
So we cant mention jlist anymore? or just not int he form of a URL?
witch is silly since they offer more than hentai,however I dont go there much and it seems they dont have a separate area for "toys" and "Hgames"
prehaps in hidden spoiler tags?
Anjin-San
12-11-2006, 01:49 PM
I'm not going to go into hentai semantics, okay. He said jlist, and I don't remember him putting a URL, otherwise yes...I'd of done it. As far as I know, it's might've been one of those mall stores japanophiles go to buy manga.
As for Bible Black being H or whatever goofy designation you want to give it, hermaphrodite lesibianism counts as porn by default . I mean, are you reading what you're typing out here?
TrentHowell
12-11-2006, 02:02 PM
I'm not going to go into hentai semantics, okay. He said jlist, and I don't remember him putting a URL, otherwise yes...I'd of done it. As far as I know, it's might've been one of those mall stores japanophiles go to buy manga.
As for Bible Black being H or whatever goofy designation you want to give it, hermaphrodite lesibianism counts as porn by default . I mean, are you reading what you're typing out here?
i realize its still porn by default but if i recall porn in video games/game systems is not a new subject for us. Remember that porn for PSP? The only real difference between those 2, other than one being a news article, is that the latter bible black game made a direct link, or at least a reference, to a site and talked about "dick girls". But nonetheless both made people aware that stuff is available for said systems
ZippyDSMlee
12-11-2006, 02:02 PM
I'm not going to go into hentai semantics, okay. He said jlist, and I don't remember him putting a URL, otherwise yes...I'd of done it. As far as I know, it's might've been one of those mall stores japanophiles go to buy manga.
As for Bible Black being H or whatever goofy designation you want to give it, hermaphrodite lesibianism counts as porn by default . I mean, are you reading what you're typing out here?
SO is hetrosexaulity,might as well start locking anything haveing to do with fan admiration of pixels and such,while your at it all lock any heated debates thos are bad,I am surprised you let my incoherence go..perhaps its under your radar...mmmm
Anyway if hentai is off the table then there should be a rule since you cant find any redeeming value in the conversation over it while the Bible black thread was bad you would have closed it if there was no mention of dickgirls/shemale/hetromedtie or a link to the offdening matrail.
clearfied rules over hentai need to be posted.
Theroy?
He didn't delete it just locked it.
acouple posts where then edited,one to Jlist and the other to the game itself.
BTW I apologize for posting the link I didn't think it would be THAT bad,since I have come to the mindset that pixilated boobs are less ,PG13 versions of the R rated things...silly me...yet again I don't get it *L*
Anjin seems to like making up his own rules. We all know the rules Dennis put up and Theory? and Toll enforce them well enough.
I can go and recount an earlier example of Anjin making up a rule because he got a bit pissy when I pointed out no such rule existed, and that he had given me an infraction unjustfully (and apparantly whined enough to get it made into an actual rule)
EDIT: I also recall him editing one of Thefremen's posts, which did not break any rules whatsoever, just because it did not speak fondly of him. Great stuff. Oh, and dude, I'm making a screenshot of this post in case you feel the need to make it vanish as well.
Garrett
12-11-2006, 02:10 PM
Thought I should chime in on the issue, amid the want for me to stay away because I felt the situation was handled by Anjin and Toll. There's nothing here that most of you don't already know.
Hentai, for all practical purposes, is porn. Do I watch Hentai? Hell yes I do. Should I mix a little Hentai with my breakfast cereal? It's a bad idea. Kids n' all.
GP forums is a public area. Anyone can walk in here and register. That's why we keep certain things out. There's an active censor checker, plenty of mods, & specific guidelines posted by the admin and by the mods. Some rules are a little loose, and allow a grey area within. Others, like harassments, and the ever-hating spam, is not tolerated and deleted. Topics such as religion and Jack Thompson are heavily monitored.
That said, the moderators are not your parents. We are not here to guide you in your moral decisions, we are not here to tell you which religion to choose, or weather or not you should hate lawyers. But mods have to make decisions. Do we delete a thread or a post because little Billy can click on a link within that thread that could take him to a porn site? Of course we do. And if Anjin thought that this might go on in the same thread, then locking that thread was sensible.
I personally do not like to lock entire threads. I've locked a religion thread because it got out of hand. Even then, I usually talk about it with the other mods. As far as I saw, Anjin did communicate.
Being a mod does not mean you have to be here every day, or, like beemoh, delete and lock threads. I know he, and the other lesser-known mods, are good for it when we go on vacation.
And yeah, if you need to know, I used to mod for Dennis back in the ZDnet video game forums, way back in 2000. Toll and Theory are tops in here. They are younger, and way faster then me. So there.
The only real difference between those 2, other than one being a news article, is that the latter bible black game made a direct link, or at least a reference, to a site and talked about "dick girls". But nonetheless both made people aware that stuff is available for said systems
I think you should re-read the second page of the thread. There was a grand totall of one post about the actuall game, the rest really were in "LOLZ hentai postcount+1" territory. I'm pretty certain that those posts were what got the thread locked.
Thefremen
12-11-2006, 02:15 PM
I'm not going to go into hentai semantics, okay. He said jlist, and I don't remember him putting a URL, otherwise yes...I'd of done it. As far as I know, it's might've been one of those mall stores japanophiles go to buy manga.
As for Bible Black being H or whatever goofy designation you want to give it, hermaphrodite lesibianism counts as porn by default . I mean, are you reading what you're typing out here?
Toll or theory? Would have deleted/edited offending posts and made a warning post. Your "throw the baby out with the bathwater" approach of taking unilateral action against anything you don't like. Micheal Richards thread? Shut down for the use of an offensive word as far as I can tell. That word was used 2 pages back. By someone you know. Leading me to believe that closure was vendetta, as they say in the ancient tongue.
Involving the forum in a personal squabble is against the rules of kanly.
TrentHowell
12-11-2006, 02:19 PM
I personally do not like to lock entire threads. I've locked a religion thread because it got out of hand. Even then, I usually talk about it with the other mods. As far as I saw, Anjin did communicate.
If you are referring to the agreeance that Toll made with Anjin when the lock post was edited. That edit was made 3 hours later, as well as the 2 edits within the thread itself that linked and made reference to the site that the game in question was located. All that was done 3 hours later, so even if the thread was objectionable and deserved the lock, Anjin did an incomplete job (or in lamens terms half-***ed) since the link was still there when Anjin did the initial locking, meaning any kid could still waltz into the forum and pick up the link before Toll deleted the link himself. Check the post and edit times, you'll se theres a 3 hour difference, Anjin locked the thread a little after 10 am, Toll edited the posts (all 3) a little after 1 pm
ZippyDSMlee
12-11-2006, 02:20 PM
I think you should re-read the second page of the thread. There was a grand totall of one post about the actuall game, the rest really were in "LOLZ hentai postcount+1" territory. I'm pretty certain that those posts were what got the thread locked.
funny I recall whining about how bad the games subject matter is.
witch counts,KN was drooling his wet love over it..but then he dose that to most things.
funny I recall whining about how bad the games subject matter is.
witch counts,KN was drooling his wet love over it..but then he dose that to most things.
Fine, yes, I forgot your three posts where you said that the game, and the cartoon weren't your cup of tea. I apologize, that should've been a grand total of three or four posts.
ZippyDSMlee
12-11-2006, 02:26 PM
Fine, yes, I forgot your three posts where you said that the game, and the cartoon weren't your cup of tea. I apologize, that should've been a grand total of three or four posts.
*L*
but then I did post the game link DOH! ><
And I don't see anything wrong with the link Zippy posted. I doubt Anjin even read the contents. It gave a simple description of the game's 'story', and that's basically it. Any J-List description of even the most brutal h-game looks like something you'd find on the back of a book.
ZippyDSMlee
12-11-2006, 02:43 PM
And I don't see anything wrong with the link Zippy posted. I doubt Anjin even read the contents. It gave a simple description of the game's 'story', and that's basically it. Any J-List description of even the most brutal h-game looks like something you'd find on the back of a book.
If this were a open form the ink would not be questioned if thier were a "R" rated form again the link would not questioned,but this is a PG13 forum while we can discus alot of things we need to be mindful of the things that are "bad".
It would've been 'bad' if there had been screenshots, which are never on the description page.
Thefremen
12-11-2006, 03:02 PM
Wow this thread may have gotten a bit out of hand, I think we all need to calm down and just think about what you want to accomplish here. I just wanted to air my grievances, and I have.
I think all of us need to think about what we aim to accomplish posting ITT, and whether or not that goal is laudable.
ITT drama
I hate that 10 character limit
Demontestament
12-11-2006, 03:56 PM
I'm not going to go into hentai semantics, okay. He said jlist, and I don't remember him putting a URL, otherwise yes...I'd of done it. As far as I know, it's might've been one of those mall stores japanophiles go to buy manga.
Please tell me what in the holy name of hell is a Japanophile?
steelcobra
12-11-2006, 04:22 PM
someone who gets a hardon anytime they think of anything superfically japanese.
Thefremen
12-11-2006, 04:26 PM
someone who gets a hardon anytime they think of anything superfically japanese.
Basically, gwen stephani.
Did someone say Weeaboo? Cause I think I heard someone say Weeaboo.
Thefremen
12-11-2006, 04:34 PM
Did someone say Weeaboo? Cause I think I heard someone say Weeaboo.
Lols. Gwen Stephani is the textbook definition of a Weeaboo.
Demontestament
12-11-2006, 04:49 PM
someone who gets a hardon anytime they think of anything superfically japanese.
So it is ok for him to insult someone who may like the japanese culture(maybe a little too much) but have a Japanese suffix in his name? I maybe wrong but it seems that only what you call "Japanophiles" are the only ones who would have such a thing in their name.
And is it such a ****ing crime to love the culture? I guess we are only allowed to love the cultures depeding on what ethnicity we are from, if we like others we are put down and talked down to. So I guess by his logic, if anybody love say the German culture that would make them a Germanphile, or what ever culture you want it to be <insert culture name here>ophile.
steelcobra
12-11-2006, 04:55 PM
The difference is in the extremes. I enjoy anime, I practice a mixed martial arts style, and my favorite blade is the katana. Not because it's japanese, but because of the sheer excellence and simplicity of it. But that doesn't make me as bad as some of the people out there who glom onto anything just because it's japanese, yet ignore the darker sides of the culture.
kurisu7885
12-11-2006, 06:10 PM
The difference is in the extremes. I enjoy anime, I practice a mixed martial arts style, and my favorite blade is the katana. Not because it's japanese, but because of the sheer excellence and simplicity of it. But that doesn't make me as bad as some of the people out there who glom onto anything just because it's japanese, yet ignore the darker sides of the culture.
I'm the same way. Hell, my username is my Japanese name.
Garrett
12-11-2006, 06:39 PM
If you are referring to the agreeance that Toll made with Anjin when the lock post was edited.
No. To our own personal mod thread. Anjin posted there to let us know.
That edit was made 3 hours later, as well as the 2 edits within the thread itself that linked and made reference to the site that the game in question was located. All that was done 3 hours later, so even if the thread was objectionable and deserved the lock, Anjin did an incomplete job (or in lamens terms half-***ed) since the link was still there when Anjin did the initial locking, meaning any kid could still waltz into the forum and pick up the link before Toll deleted the link himself.
So? The edit was done. Mods help each other out.
Garrett
12-11-2006, 06:55 PM
Garrett is Stealth Mod, much like the master thief he's named after.
When you see him, you will **** bricks.
Besides that, he's the only mod I remember next to Toll and Theory?.
I wonder what would happen, KN, if you were to end up being a mod. What kind of Dungeon Keeper would you be? The one that beats, or the one that tortures? :eek:
I wonder what would happen, KN, if you were to end up being a mod. What kind of Dungeon Keeper would you be? The one that beats, or the one that tortures? :eek:
Remember Horney? ^^
ZippyDSMlee
12-11-2006, 07:49 PM
Remember Horney? ^^
god I miss that game.
FYI dragon force on Ebay for 7$ so far and thats with shiping.
with soem copies going fr 70...WTF dragoon sega is 90 and a buy it now of 150..I hate ebay scalpers....
Thefremen
12-12-2006, 12:28 AM
I wonder what would happen, KN, if you were to end up being a mod. What kind of Dungeon Keeper would you be? The one that beats, or the one that tortures? :eek:
He would be the Aliester Crowley of mods.
Picho
12-12-2006, 01:48 AM
if i was a dm, i would be like "oh snap not again... freeking hell. umm... a knight in shining armor comes running through and slays the six-hundred demons. oh. and raises you back from the dead... And reverses the effects of the magical book of chaos.... and um.. one of you be dm now okay?."
Dagrak
12-12-2006, 04:47 AM
Remember Horney? ^^
Keeper! Your minions desire cable.
Micro-piglets have invaded your dungeon.
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Back to the Anjin discussion, this thread really boomed when I went offline I barely know where to start now! So I'll just offer my view on the Bible Black thread. Had I been a mod I would have closed it too, not because of any negative feelings towards the posters or anything sinister like that as people seem to be suggesting but because it had turned into a descriptive conversation about what things people like to see in their hentai and not whether the game should be controversial or not. Basically as the religion threads for off topic and turning into fights this thread went off topic and landed heavily in the realm of overly non-family friendly.
I still don't see the argument for mods having to be online all the time but I think someone else has already handled that argument so I won't bother repeating it. Basically my argument is give Anjin a break, he's only doing his job which may not neccesarily be the job you want him to do.
If you want to be a mod, prepare to be on as much as you possibly can.
If he actually posted in threads he didn't lock three minutes later, we might not despise him so much. He hasn't even ATTEMPTED to become a part of the community, whatsoever.
He would be the Aliester Crowley of mods.
Oh **** yeah.
Dagrak
12-12-2006, 09:00 AM
If you want to be a mod, prepare to be on as much as you possibly can.
If he actually posted in threads he didn't lock three minutes later, we might not despise him so much. He hasn't even ATTEMPTED to become a part of the community, whatsoever.
Not everyone can be on all the time. Its not fair that people be ostracised because their job or their life denies them constant access to the forums.
The point is he locked the threads because he felt they went against the rules. Why would he post there if he thought it shouldn't be there in the first place? He has posted in the forums and I dare say has contributed as much as most of the people signed on here. Like I said though not everyone is on as often as others but it doesn't mean they like the forum any less.
Like I say, I'm all for a good telling off if a mod messes up but I don't think that Anjin has done anything to warrant this demand that he be demoted.
I had never seen him before when he started yelling over something I posted. I'm on here almost all day long, so I see every single post.
Dagrak
12-12-2006, 09:37 AM
I had never seen him before when he started yelling over something I posted. I'm on here almost all day long, so I see every single post.
Ah! So its down to first impressions. I had seen Anjin before the recent controversy but like with most people I didn't recognise him until his name became fairly well known. People generally have to do something we aknowledge before we begin to notice them, its why you can watch endless films starring Gerard Butler but only notice him when he becomes Dracula or the Phantom.
Anjin-San
12-12-2006, 09:38 AM
So it is ok for him to insult someone who may like the japanese culture(maybe a little too much) but have a Japanese suffix in his name? I maybe wrong but it seems that only what you call "Japanophiles" are the only ones who would have such a thing in their name.
And is it such a ****ing crime to love the culture? I guess we are only allowed to love the cultures depeding on what ethnicity we are from, if we like others we are put down and talked down to. So I guess by his logic, if anybody love say the German culture that would make them a Germanphile, or what ever culture you want it to be <insert culture name here>ophile.
No. It's like calling someone an anglophile. The person might like Monty Python or Dr. Who or anything from the UK. If my aim was to insult, I'd of said creepy japanophile.
Ah! So its down to first impressions. I had seen Anjin before the recent controversy but like with most people I didn't recognise him until his name became fairly well known. People generally have to do something we aknowledge before we begin to notice them, its why you can watch endless films starring Gerard Butler but only notice him when he becomes Dracula or the Phantom.
I'm not talking "recent".
Besides, I recognized you before you started posting more. I remember everything that goes on here, and people demanding respect when they just don't want to be part of the community irks me greatly. This is why Anjin needs to post a ****load more before he even begins to gather my respect.
Dagrak
12-12-2006, 10:03 AM
I'm not talking "recent".
Besides, I recognized you before you started posting more. I remember everything that goes on here, and people demanding respect when they just don't want to be part of the community irks me greatly. This is why Anjin needs to post a ****load more before he even begins to gather my respect.
Now this is where I'm getting into confusion mode. People keep mentioning that Anjin has done this a lot but whenever I ask about the threads/examples the only ones I ever get sent to/told about are the N-Word one and the Bible Black one. I'm very happy to hear the full story but I only have a small section to work from.
Tollwutig
12-12-2006, 11:54 AM
First off as to the Bible Black thread. I agree with Anjin-San for closing it, if for slightly different reasons. Would I have handled things differently if I had come upon the thread first? Probably, but guess what I didn't. I came upon the thread after seeing the alert Anjin put up in the Mod Forum. After reading the thread I removed links that per the user allowed one to find Hentai. Now given that I mod from work most of the time, I did not follow those links. Typically Hentai is not work safe and there was no way I was going there on my work laptop. Safer option was to remove the links.
Would I have closed the thread? Very possible and I would have debated it seriously with myself on the matter, as the thread was in serious threat of being derailed and becoming highly inappropriate. Since the thread was already closed I did not see a reason to open it and try to direct the thread back to an adult discussion. Hentai or any porn is easily derailed into Beavis & Butthead type discussions consider that and walk on egg shells when you start or post into such a thread.
As to the other thread which has caused controversy, there is a disagreement amongst the moderators on it. We discussed it in our private forum. To me its is a dead thread and should be properly buried.
There is the instance where Anjin did make a flame worthy post in the tirade thread when people complained about the N-word thread being closed. Everyone knows I particularly do not tolerate flaming or flame baiting, even in other mods. In that instance I did what I normally do, removed the flame worthy material and make a flame-retardant comment.
As all the moderators. Well a majority of them are actually correspondents for GP. Garrett and Beardedferret are long time friends of GP, and Beardedferret if i remember correctly actually designed the GP logos. Also myself and Theory? may be here the most often, but remember I moderate from work, it is always possibly for me not to even get to log on during the day, and I stay rather busy after work so I do miss stuff. I have no idea what Theory?'s hours are like he seems to be here whenever. Garrett also works and has a family to take care of so is often stealthy about being here, but he is here more than you think, just have to check out the active users. :cool:
Jabrwock is also here more often than people think, but he is more active in corresponding than moderating, he's still a good mod to have around.
Individual mods have individual personalities, sometimes we take getting used to, remember some of you thought I was too harsh before the forums changed over.
mediahostage
12-12-2006, 02:39 PM
As all the moderators. Well a majority of them are actually correspondents for GP. Garrett and Beardedferret are long time friends of GP, and Beardedferret if i remember correctly actually designed the GP logos. Also myself and Theory? may be here the most often, but remember I moderate from work, it is always possibly for me not to even get to log on during the day, and I stay rather busy after work so I do miss stuff. I have no idea what Theory?'s hours are like he seems to be here whenever. Garrett also works and has a family to take care of so is often stealthy about being here, but he is here more than you think, just have to check out the active users. :cool:
Jabrwock is also here more often than people think, but he is more active in corresponding than moderating, he's still a good mod to have around.
Individual mods have individual personalities, sometimes we take getting used to, remember some of you thought I was too harsh before the forums changed over.
I'll admit to having taken a turn for the lazy in the past few months! Sorry! Actually, I moved from Atlanta to San Francisco and the job search has sadly occupied all of my spare time. I'm doing my damnedest to get more involved again.
And BTW, it was I who designed the GP logos. Don't take away the one thing I CAN take credit for! ;)
Thefremen
12-12-2006, 02:49 PM
I'll admit to having taken a turn for the lazy in the past few months! Sorry! Actually, I moved from Atlanta to San Francisco and the job search has sadly occupied all of my spare time. I'm doing my damnedest to get more involved again.
And BTW, it was I who designed the GP logos. Don't take away the one thing I CAN take credit for! ;)
You mean "ICANN"? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Tollwutig
12-12-2006, 03:11 PM
I'll admit to having taken a turn for the lazy in the past few months! Sorry! Actually, I moved from Atlanta to San Francisco and the job search has sadly occupied all of my spare time. I'm doing my damnedest to get more involved again.
And BTW, it was I who designed the GP logos. Don't take away the one thing I CAN take credit for! ;)
Sorry I knew it was one of you but was kinda lazy to find the pertinent thread.
Picho
12-13-2006, 12:32 AM
No. It's like calling someone an anglophile. The person might like Monty Python or Dr. Who or anything from the UK. If my aim was to insult, I'd of said creepy japanophile.
Lookie! he proved you all wrong!... he posted and it has been over five minutes. hmm.. i want a cookie...
Lookie! he proved you all wrong!... he posted and it has been over five minutes. hmm.. i want a cookie...
You're doing it wrong. You can only gain favor through constructive cuddling of the oral fixation.
Picho
12-13-2006, 12:41 PM
You're doing it wrong. You can only gain favor through constructive cuddling of the oral fixation.
i dont want favor. i want a cookie.
Garrett's edit owns all O_O
That was Garrett, give credit where it is due.
Picho
12-13-2006, 10:35 PM
Okay... now im confused...
Henti bad... oral fixation good?
what is wrong with you people! i just want a cookie!
steelcobra
12-14-2006, 01:03 AM
http://www.knitemare.org/cats/cookie.jpg
That was Garrett, give credit where it is due.
Damn, his colour looks a lot like yours. We need a colour chart here O_O
ZippyDSMlee
12-14-2006, 12:41 PM
this place rules!
insted of deleting and bannign the mods nudge the convo int he right direction!
^0^
TrentHowell
12-14-2006, 04:09 PM
this place rules!
insted of deleting and bannign the mods nudge the convo int he right direction!
^0^
would still prefer mods to be semi sociable rather than ghosting around and appearing when something needs locking
EDIT:
Anjin-San
The Greatest Mod Ever <---Anjins self title? Cocky much k. Greatest mod title goes to Toll k
Yah. I'd prefer what we generally see Theory? and Toll do: they're around and they participate, and they use edits to steer threads back to where they should be.
mediahostage
12-14-2006, 10:13 PM
I humbly apologize for my prolonged absence and half-assed mod-itude. "We shall triple our efforts!"
ZippyDSMlee
12-14-2006, 10:23 PM
I humbly apologize for my prolonged absence and half-assed mod-itude. "We shall triple our efforts!"
so that means you'll be working to "fix" ajins "posts",kuris and mine spelling and keep KN on topic...wow you rule!
:rolleyes:
Hey I finally saw one of those new spam-bots everyone's talking about! Weird, why do people think that crap like that'll work...ever...
steelcobra
12-15-2006, 02:38 PM
Because it does work often enough to do it. All it costs is the spammer's time.
Grahamr
12-15-2006, 03:19 PM
Who just pwned that spammer in introuduce yourself??:D
Thefremen
12-15-2006, 04:01 PM
Because it does work often enough to do it. All it costs is the spammer's time.
But if we get rid of net neutrality then it will cost them bandwidth as well, and the telecos will gladly give top priority to russian spambots so long as they pay more than dennis.
Grahamr
12-15-2006, 08:00 PM
Alright, Here's an Idea.....
How about the mods allow the posters to make another bible black thread, but the posters won't be allowed to delibritely discuss OMFGXXX in it?
@Anjin-san-Posts can be edited, y'know.
And for ****'s sake give it the right name this time >.> <.<
Picho
12-15-2006, 10:02 PM
it is after all a game, and was posted in the serious games. Because seriously... who the heck would make a game like that... (or show.)
it is after all a game, and was posted in the serious games. Because seriously... who the heck would make a game like that... (or show.)
How old are you exactly? O_O
Thefremen
12-16-2006, 12:56 AM
How old are you exactly? O_O
He has a point, most H-games are retarded. Except Three Sisters Story. That game is epic. 10x better than FFVII.
Hannah
12-16-2006, 03:14 AM
He has a point, most H-games are retarded. Except Three Sisters Story. That game is epic. 10x better than FFVII.
They're not supposed to be deep or meaningful... they're just interactive pornography. I don't see a problem with that, however, since there are plenty of people who enjoy porn best if it's in game form.
steelcobra
12-16-2006, 03:37 AM
There's a reason Something Awful reviews them.
Dagrak
12-16-2006, 04:37 AM
I don't see that much of a problem if people don't get into the uneccessary specifics...
There's a reason Something Awful reviews them.
Is it wrong that I usually play the games they are most disgusted by? And end up liking them?
Dagrak
12-16-2006, 11:58 AM
Is it wrong that I usually play the games they are most disgusted by? And end up liking them?
In the (slightly modified) words of Black Books KN:
"You're a freak KN, you know that"
and your response should be
"Yes...but I have rights!"
GamePolitics
12-16-2006, 12:37 PM
Having loked into this, I think Anjin-San was acting in what he felt was the best interest of the forums.
Going forward I've asked him to confer with myself or the other mods if something is in the gray area.
I think this should solve the issue and make the forums stronger.
At this point I'm going to close the thread.
-GP
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