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godofyouall
11-28-2006, 09:02 PM
http://morningsentinel.mainetoday.com/news/local/3369616.html

Jack Thompson, a Massachusetts attorney who for the last 20 years has made it his mission to battle the entertainment industry about adult-rated products for children, called to ask if the boys had been playing Grand Theft Auto.

Contacted at his home Monday, Thompson said one mission of that Grand Theft Auto is for the player to plant a bomb inside a mall, similar to the situation Saturday at Wal-Mart. Thompson has appeared on many national TV shows, including "60 minutes," where he spoke out against violent video games, particularly Grand Theft Auto."

Thompson said there have been a number of similar incidents around the country blamed on Grand Theft Auto.

Kids in this age group are obsessively playing the game and copycatting." He said brain scans done by Harvard have shown that kids processing with that part of their brain leads to copycat behavior."

This is not a fanciful 'Gee I wonder if,' " Thompson said. He said dozens of studies prove a causal connection between violent videos and increased aggressive behavior.

This is not conjecture, this is fact ... Transfer of that physical act from virtual reality to real reality has a desensitizing effect," Thompson said.



Discuss............................

KN
11-28-2006, 09:11 PM
No.. This is so parody. It has to be. It.. just.. has to be.


I thought the man had moved on. I really did T_T

Theory?
11-28-2006, 09:12 PM
http://morningsentinel.mainetoday.com/news/local/3369616.html





Discuss............................

Not in OT you won't.

godofyouall
11-28-2006, 09:23 PM
Yeah sorry Theory! :D

my bad........

RaZor
11-28-2006, 10:15 PM
Oh, dear... When did Jack migrate to Massachusetts? Has to be a journalistic error, but then again, most people would think, "why would an attorney from Florida be contacting legal officials in New England?" But then, they haven't had to deal with Jack as long as we have...

By the way, isn't Jack still dealing with his own legal issues in Florida? How does he have time to play in New England?

kurisu7885
11-28-2006, 11:24 PM
I'll give him this one tiny iota of credit. He got it right that in GTA there was a mission where you bombed a mall storefront. It was in Vice city I believe. Leave it to him to not name the exact game. If he did, what are the odds he just spouted a random one?

Tollwutig
11-29-2006, 12:00 PM
I'll post what I posted about this on the main page:
LOL thats funny, when did Thompson move to Mass? Also that story is so full of inaccuracies its scary for one I’ll quote:
“Asselin said the bombs were made with a type of acid common to drain cleaners: “What’s scary, is the material is available at most hardware stores, including Wal-Mart. The knowledge is out there and very little research is needed.”"

Now while yes the materials to make this sort of bomb, (if it is the one I am thinking of, and from the descriptions it is) are easily accessible in every grocery store, and in Wal-Mart there is one BIG problem.
Drain Cleaners don’t use Acids most commonly, and generally the only acid cleaners are used by plumbers. Reason? Acid etches metal, and what until recently was the most common material for drain pipes? Metal.

Most commonly Drain Cleaners use a Base, which is less reactive with metal but highly reactive to organic clogs such as grease.

As a point of fact, the bomb in question relies on the reaction between Aluminum and Sodium Hydroxide. What’s scary is someone who lacks this basic knowledge of Chemistry is investigating this.
So if it is so easy to research how to make one of these bombs why didn't the guy do some research himself to find out it wasn't an Acid bomb, but a Base Bomb.
<wishes he could shoot people for not understanding the difference between and Acid and Base>

I'll give him this one tiny iota of credit. He got it right that in GTA there was a mission where you bombed a mall storefront. It was in Vice city I believe. Leave it to him to not name the exact game. If he did, what are the odds he just spouted a random one?

Kuri, JT rarely if ever distinguishes between different GTAs. He dislikes the entire franchise.

Lost Watcher
11-29-2006, 12:30 PM
I gave him the benefit of the doubt he moved on...
But noooooo... (Its like he's grasping for straws to get a new snowball moving down the mountain)





Anywho Yes, I gotta agree with toll on this... during chem class our teacher was telling us stuff not to mix with Sodium Hydroxide do to dangerous reactive effects.

kurisu7885
11-29-2006, 04:45 PM
Kuri, JT rarely if ever distinguishes between different GTAs. He dislikes the entire franchise.

Dislikes is putting it VERY lightly, but I see your point, he yet again didn't even try to get anything right. in fact, the only case in which an acid bomb was ever used in a Rockstar game title was in Smuggler's run, but that was purely for a defensive measure to slow down pursuing vehicles. In GTA the closest ever were the smoke grenades.

MachShot
11-30-2006, 10:29 PM
There are allways two problems with nearly all video game related (scapegoated is a more fitting term) incidentces is the lack of a real reason for said crime and not punishing the right people.

On the subject of lack of a real reason, lets use this analogy. Hypotheticaly speaking, I just played halo, and now for some reason I want to throw a sticky grenade at some random person. There is a bridge that needs to be build to add logic to that. Why would you make a bomb to kill real people for the hell of it?

There is the 'evidence' of games leading to stimulating certain parts of the brain, but there is absolutely no evidece pertaining to afterwards.

On the subject of not punishing the right person here is this analogy. Instead of a sticky grenade, I settle for a handgun. Now a random attourney is sueing Taurus for the creation of the Desert Eagle. Do you find logic in that? If anyone is to blame in this game if there is a direct conection between GTA and the 'base bomb' incident, its the parents for failing to do their job of being parents or the specific retailer who (if they did) sold an M rated game to a minor.

Picho
11-30-2006, 11:47 PM
of course there is also mythbusters. I witness how to do many things from that show, including the dry ice bomb, the lava lamp bomb, and the microwave bomb. (okay so i didnt see the microwave bomb, but anyone with half a brain and the knowlage that you cant stick metal into a microwave can get some big ideas...)

Beacon
12-01-2006, 01:34 PM
Kuri, JT rarely if ever distinguishes between different GTAs. He dislikes the entire franchise.
That's sort of like saying I "dislike" getting shot in the arm, except I actually have a decent reason to "dislike" getting shot.

kurisu7885
12-01-2006, 02:38 PM
of course there is also mythbusters. I witness how to do many things from that show, including the dry ice bomb, the lava lamp bomb, and the microwave bomb. (okay so i didnt see the microwave bomb, but anyone with half a brain and the knowlage that you cant stick metal into a microwave can get some big ideas...)

OF course, for the truly dangerous stuff, like making gun cotton or Nitrous Oxide, they keep all that under wraps.

Some Lazy Dr
12-07-2006, 08:54 PM
Thinking about what GTA it is, I think it is Vice City though I don't quite remember blowing up a storefront. San Andreas would seem more likely, but you plant a bomb on the power generators, not a mall front. GTA3? The closest to that would be the bomb on the SPANK ship.

Hmm, Jack Thompson and his nutty antics again. Plus, in San Andreas it was against the mob and in GTA3 it was against a drug cartel. The DEA and FBI could of done the same thing in real life.

kurisu7885
12-07-2006, 09:45 PM
Thinking about what GTA it is, I think it is Vice City though I don't quite remember blowing up a storefront. San Andreas would seem more likely, but you plant a bomb on the power generators, not a mall front. GTA3? The closest to that would be the bomb on the SPANK ship.

Hmm, Jack Thompson and his nutty antics again. Plus, in San Andreas it was against the mob and in GTA3 it was against a drug cartel. The DEA and FBI could of done the same thing in real life.

You did bomb a storefront in Vice City. And then alter got a cop uniform and wen there to get the evidence. As for S an Andreas, it was partly agaisnt the mod, then against a drug cartel ,and against the mob in Vice City.

Some Lazy Dr
12-08-2006, 07:11 PM
Now I remember! You set up C4 inside the main mall in Vice City, wasn't the place a food shop or something?

kurisu7885
12-08-2006, 07:40 PM
Now I remember! You set up C4 inside the main mall in Vice City, wasn't the place a food shop or something?

Some place that wasn't paying protection.