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nightwng2000
11-10-2006, 03:00 PM
It isn't merely what this article is about but something that is said at the very end of the article that catches my eye:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15633027/
I find it rather hypocrictical that a college that is preparing to hold a race symposium to talk about diversity would have a "Black Student Union", clearly a segregated group of individuals. Moreover, I wonder if there is a Student Union representing each and every race of students at the college, or does the college only allow student unions segregated by race to exist only if it is an "accepted" race?
Frankly, this makes it appear similar to the "sensitivity courses" where "all men are bad and all women are their victims" that comes up from time to time.
Sometimes, these things come off, also, as "you may only see us the way WE want you to see us, not the way YOU want to see us. But we can see you however we want and you may not dispute that view".
ZippyDSMlee
11-10-2006, 03:30 PM
It isn't merely what this article is about but something that is said at the very end of the article that catches my eye:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15633027/
I find it rather hypocrictical that a college that is preparing to hold a race symposium to talk about diversity would have a "Black Student Union", clearly a segregated group of individuals. Moreover, I wonder if there is a Student Union representing each and every race of students at the college, or does the college only allow student unions segregated by race to exist only if it is an "accepted" race?
Frankly, this makes it appear similar to the "sensitivity courses" where "all men are bad and all women are their victims" that comes up from time to time.
Sometimes, these things come off, also, as "you may only see us the way WE want you to see us, not the way YOU want to see us. But we can see you however we want and you may not dispute that view".
There is alot of them but no US at least no US that is US of the masses,this is the logic of PCness as long as you are the most of the many(white) you can be a accepted separate "race".....
bayushisan
11-10-2006, 04:04 PM
I've always found it interesting that so many groups were so hypersensitive about our differences. The prevailing attitude, from my experience mind you, seems to have been along the lines of: "be nice to minorities because they're minorities."
Something about that line of thought has always struck me as being a much more insidious form of racism. I'm all for treating everyone equally, based upon the content of their character and not anything else.
Garbage Pail Kid
11-10-2006, 05:04 PM
We had a Black Student Union at my old school. I always wondered if white kids who were interested in issues that commonly affect black people would have been allowed to join.
Why do Black Student Unions exist? We all know that gives morons a reason to form a White Student Union, and they can get away with it.
Can't everyone get it through their head there is no such thing as race? >_>
ZippyDSMlee
11-10-2006, 07:43 PM
If you are goign to have one group play "clubhouse" then you have to let the other make club houses of thier own,if not then force them to I dunno..make mix club huses that talk about all things not just "we was robbed we wants reperations!"
Or the depressed white guy finding out how awesome his German heritage was and goes anti logic on everyone >>
"w00t, these people are white/black/green, just like me. Though they belong to different social groups and have different opinions, I feel related to them. Derp derp derp derp"
Thefremen
11-11-2006, 03:56 AM
We had a Black Student Union at my old school. I always wondered if white kids who were interested in issues that commonly affect black people would have been allowed to join.
Makes me wonder if the Black students who didn't belong to the union were "scabs". I wonder if before the Union students stood up in class with signs that said "Union".
Tollwutig
11-13-2006, 11:16 AM
I find racism so boringly dull, when specism is so much more fun. There would be less hatred between black, white & yellow, if everyone could gang up on Green.
I find racism so boringly dull, when specism is so much more fun. There would be less hatred between black, white & yellow, if everyone could gang up on Green.
Yaknow, I do hate those damn lizards.
Silver_Derstin
11-13-2006, 12:51 PM
Yaknow, I do hate those damn lizards.
It's all those damn amphibians fault! They're running the movie industry you know, and caused all the war!
Mel Gibson certainly thinks so...
Hank the Tank
11-13-2006, 01:20 PM
Black students at Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis demand a campus center for black students, an African-American studies program and $78,000 for black groups.
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006611130424
Silver_Derstin
11-13-2006, 01:23 PM
Black students at Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis demand a campus center for black students, an African-American studies program and $78,000 for black groups.
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006611130424
Affirmative action FTW anyone? Why can't I, a white Quebec french, get 78 000$ for a franco-american study program and a special campus center for my needs?
Tollwutig
11-13-2006, 01:35 PM
Black students at Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis demand a campus center for black students, an African-American studies program and $78,000 for black groups.
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006611130424
Ya know if I were attending this University I'd demand a mix European/Cherokee/Who knows what else Ethnic Student Center, and $78,000 towards Student groups promoting the rich mixed heritage of the students. I'd also enlist the Asians and ask them to protest for their own Student Center.
Wasn't there like some kind of ruling on this sort of thing... oh yeah:
Brown v Board of Education
Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_v_board_of_education) Which explicitly outlawed racial segregation of public education facilities (legal establishment of separate government-run schools for blacks and whites), ruling so on the grounds that the doctrine of "separate but equal" public education could never truly provide black Americans with facilities of the same standards available to white Americans.
Someone should challenge this sort of thing in court case history states that you can't have separate and equal in education, and by creating a separate student center you're creating an unequal and segregated system.
Demontestament
11-13-2006, 01:57 PM
I find racism so boringly dull, when specism is so much more fun. There would be less hatred between black, white & yellow, if everyone could gang up on Green.
wait wait are we talking about the school issue or RISK?
Hank the Tank
11-13-2006, 03:22 PM
wait wait are we talking about the school issue or RISK?
Other colors:"Everybody gang up on green!"
Green:"ASSHOLES!"
Oh, I also hate sperm cells. They are certainly not of my species, as they have only half my chromosome count. I commit sperm genocide daily. Entire civilizations are currently dying in the trash can.
I call PARTY FOUL... TOO MUCH INFORMATION... CHANGE OF TOPIC...
Garbage Pail Kid
11-13-2006, 08:15 PM
A White Student Union wouldn't be moronic; it be would hilarious. The fact that the director of student clubs at our school was a black woman would have made it even funnier.
I call PARTY FOUL... TOO MUCH INFORMATION... CHANGE OF TOPIC...
I love you Toll ;p
beemoh
11-13-2006, 09:24 PM
"w00t, these people are white/black/green, just like me. Though they belong to different social groups and have different opinions, I feel related to them. Derp derp derp derp"
Yeah. I mean, you could understand it if, say, it was the [Some Foreign Nationality] Student's Union, especially if they've all come to the country to study from a non-English speaking country and English isn't their first language, but this is arbitrary.
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