Verizon drops Common Carrier rights?

[Jabrwock]

Has Verizon Forfeited It's Common Carrier Status?
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/06/2054222

Basically, Verizon bowed to pressure in the US, and blocked a Canadian ISP. (it hosts a legal website which is a support group for minor-liking adults, 100% legal) Effectively censoring the net. Which isn't allowed under common carrier status. So does that mean that Verizon can now be sued for allowing spam/p2p through their networks? That was the defense used before, that telcos couldn't be sued for allowing spam/p2p, since they were "common carriers" and not responsible for the data flowing back and forth.

As predicted by UserFriendly.org back in Sept/06. when telcos were arguing that they should be allowed to filter data streams to "ensure VOIP quality", but essentionally because they wanted to charge both the customer and website owner for data flowing back and forth.

http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/06sep/uf009509.gif
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20060909

[KN]

I love UserFriendly.

How come they don't filter any of the KKK bull**** on the Internet first?

[ZippyDSMlee]

SO we are on our way to a fully edited net...holly fck we are china 0-o

[KN]

SO we are on our way to a fully edited net...holly fck we are china 0-o

Not really. It just takes one guy to say "hay Verizon, now that you're doing that, you're not common carrier anymore, right? Now can I sue you for allowing this offensive material to be carried over your pipes?"

And they'll back off faster than a bad metaphor off another bad metaphor.

For the hell of it, someone tell some censorcrats they can sue Verizon for carrying all sorts of **** they don't like now. They'll be begging to people to forget the whole incident and just carry on as usual in no time.

[ZippyDSMlee]

Not really. It just takes one guy to say "hay Verizon, now that you're doing that, you're not common carrier anymore, right? Now can I sue you for allowing this offensive material to be carried over your pipes?"

And they'll back off faster than a bad metaphor off another bad metaphor.

For the hell of it, someone tell some censorcrats they can sue Verizon for carrying all sorts of **** they don't like now. They'll be begging to people to forget the whole incident and just carry on as usual in no time.

is this there normal net or cell I know they are censoring images of scantly clad women that are not on music videos 0-o on thier cell service....ya know let people have thier porn if they ant to do it in public right them a ticket for pub indency and get it over with for crist sake...

[Jabrwock]

is this there normal net or cell I know they are censoring images of scantly clad women that are not on music videos 0-o on thier cell service....ya know let people have thier porn if they ant to do it in public right them a ticket for pub indency and get it over with for crist sake...
End of the line services can do filtering. Like your ISP. They are allowed to filter spam afterall. But the companies that build the trunk lines that connect cities are common carriers, and cannot do filtering. Unless the content is illegal, then it's ok.

The problem is when the ISP and the trunk line operator are one and the same, or when the trunk line operator attempts to dictate what the ISP can do.

In the case of the story above, the trunk line operator is telling the ISP who he can and can't host, even though the hosted page doesn't contravene any laws. So he has no grounds as a common carrier to make such a demand.

The ISP could sue Verizon, and Verizon would lose it's common carrier status, and then you could sue for anything bad or objectionable that goes through Verizon's network.

They'll backpedal from this as soon as someone sues them over the spam coming through their network...

[ZippyDSMlee]

End of the line services can do filtering. Like your ISP. They are allowed to filter spam afterall. But the companies that build the trunk lines that connect cities are common carriers, and cannot do filtering. Unless the content is illegal, then it's ok.

The problem is when the ISP and the trunk line operator are one and the same, or when the trunk line operator attempts to dictate what the ISP can do.

In the case of the story above, the trunk line operator is telling the ISP who he can and can't host, even though the hosted page doesn't contravene any laws. So he has no grounds as a common carrier to make such a demand.

The ISP could sue Verizon, and Verizon would lose it's common carrier status, and then you could sue for anything bad or objectionable that goes through Verizon's network.

They'll backpedal from this as soon as someone sues them over the spam coming through their network...
Freaky!!!!!!!

[Thefremen]

Zippy: you forgot to mention underaged scantily clad girls on verizon cell phone music videos. Jojo, Hillary Duff, all the under-18s that folks like duffygta love.

[ZippyDSMlee]

Zippy: you forgot to mention underaged scantily clad girls on verizon cell phone music videos. Jojo, Hillary Duff, all the under-18s that folks like duffygta love.

As long as theirs no nudity its not agisnt the law,but they probably censor them anyway *L*