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OlivervilleNN
04-15-2008, 04:59 PM
mccain has romney breathing down his neck waiting for him to fall over and croak
hillary invented her own policital party and gave the middle finger to the democratic party
obama's slogan was CHANGE before he even understood his positions in the election
Ron Paul still has supporters that forgot to scrape off their bumper stickers and take down their signs

Who is going to win in 2008, you decide!

Demontestament
04-15-2008, 05:02 PM
I am going to win. Vote me for Damn you!

KN
04-15-2008, 05:13 PM
Us eurofags promised to keep it a secret but we're going to nuke your ass if you don't elect Obama.

It's a safety precaution.

Kagasan
04-15-2008, 05:35 PM
i think Nader can pull this one out...

Demontestament
04-15-2008, 06:31 PM
Us eurofags promised to keep it a secret but we're going to nuke your ass if you don't elect Obama.

It's a safety precaution.

Nuclear launch detected.

Ace_ofspade
04-15-2008, 07:30 PM
I don't know... I'm kind of hoping McCain wins. Hear me out. McCain would make a ****ty, ****ty president. Obama would make a good president, a much better president. God forbid, even Hilary would. But when things start going well for change, I become worried that something bad is going to suddenly ruin it. At least with McCain, we'll be in consistently terrible shape.

Demontestament
04-15-2008, 07:35 PM
I don't know... I'm kind of hoping McCain wins. Hear me out. McCain would make a ****ty, ****ty president. Obama would make a good president, a much better president. God forbid, even Hilary would. But when things start going well for change, I become worried that something bad is going to suddenly ruin it. At least with McCain, we'll be in consistently terrible shape.

Only thing I worry about having McCain is the reinstitution of the draft. What I find funny is that someone who was in a war and captured and had to go through hell supports the war in Iraq and want to reinstate the national draft. He is way too old for the job not to mention a failure at life so why would we want someone like that in the office? Shouldn't we elect someone who can let the rest of the world know that not everyone in power over here is a blithering idiot?

Thefremen
04-15-2008, 11:21 PM
I personally say: FOR THE EMPEROR!

treeingd
04-16-2008, 03:18 AM
i'll win! come on!

Crowskie
04-16-2008, 03:31 AM
Only thing I worry about having McCain is the reinstitution of the draft. What I find funny is that someone who was in a war and captured and had to go through hell supports the war in Iraq and want to reinstate the national draft. He is way too old for the job not to mention a failure at life so why would we want someone like that in the office? Shouldn't we elect someone who can let the rest of the world know that not everyone in power over here is a blithering idiot?

I use to actually like McCain, admired him even. Then he started gearing up for '08 and abandoned nearly every principal he once stood for to try and cater to the religious neo-cons. I remember one day when I found out he was one of 7 senators to vote against a measure to condemn torture. I lost all respect.

obama's slogan was CHANGE before he even understood his positions in the election

His positions were the positions he has held since taking public office. Change is something that is very much needed.

BlackIce, British Commie
04-16-2008, 08:30 AM
I personally say: FOR THE EMPEROR!

Exterminatus cancelled. As long as you all vote for me, as Thefremen suggested.

steelcobra
04-18-2008, 12:51 AM
His positions were the positions he has held since taking public office. Change is something that is very much needed.

Unless he actually says what change he wants instead of uselessly prattling about a generic type with no definition, I will assume it means he plans to make everyone wear clown outfits 24/7 and only shower on days that start with 'T'.

KN
04-18-2008, 07:59 AM
Unless he actually says what change he wants instead of uselessly prattling about a generic type with no definition, I will assume it means he plans to make everyone wear clown outfits 24/7 and only shower on days that start with 'T'.

If he got any more specific than that the American voter wouldn't be able to handle it. They LIKE things like that.

And the vaguer he is the less the Newscorp Empire can spin.

Conejo
04-18-2008, 10:04 AM
there is no possible way that Hillary would ever be a better president than McCain.

and i'm not even for him. she just sucks that much.

steelcobra
04-18-2008, 10:44 AM
If he got any more specific than that the American voter wouldn't be able to handle it. They LIKE things like that.

And the vaguer he is the less the Newscorp Empire can spin.

http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/political-pictures-barack-obama-answer.jpg

KN
04-18-2008, 11:04 AM
When Fox News starts recruiting from the internet, we are doomed.


O wait they did that with the psycho asian bitch didn't they?

BlackIce, British Commie
04-18-2008, 01:06 PM
When Fox News starts recruiting from the internet, we are doomed.


O wait they did that with the psycho asian bitch didn't they?

Just about every Republican was recruited by FOX News.

mopman411
04-18-2008, 03:41 PM
I'm hardcore republican. I hate all of our canidates. Freedom needs to be taken away from people, freedom has gotten us in trouble. Draft should be manadatory and if you don't go you will be shot on sight.

A person is smart but people are stupid, fearfull, reckless animals. To control our socity we need to strip them of all free choice, we need to punish our media with death when trashing our goverment. Free thought is okay, think how you want but the moment you open your mouth to trash us you'll be hung and pubicly disembowed. Our nation does need change. We need to step away from allowing so many freedoms, we need to lock down our borders and we need to takes the heads of countrys we don't like.

Its simple, our change need to be less freedom and more action. We hear alot of talk but has anyone gotten off their ****ing asses and done something, no.

The only position america should take is to control the world and pull back our treaties and laws and begin to expand our foothold of the world.

BlackIce, British Commie
04-18-2008, 04:26 PM
I'm hardcore republican. I hate all of our canidates. Freedom needs to be taken away from people, freedom has gotten us in trouble. Draft should be manadatory and if you don't go you will be shot on sight.

A person is smart but people are stupid, fearfull, reckless animals. To control our socity we need to strip them of all free choice, we need to punish our media with death when trashing our goverment. Free thought is okay, think how you want but the moment you open your mouth to trash us you'll be hung and pubicly disembowed. Our nation does need change. We need to step away from allowing so many freedoms, we need to lock down our borders and we need to takes the heads of countrys we don't like.

Its simple, our change need to be less freedom and more action. We hear alot of talk but has anyone gotten off their ****ing asses and done something, no.

The only position america should take is to control the world and pull back our treaties and laws and begin to expand our foothold of the world.

You have just described the Thatcher Years to us. Thank you, you sodding wanker.

penarestel
04-18-2008, 04:31 PM
I'm hardcore republican. I hate all of our canidates. Freedom needs to be taken away from people, freedom has gotten us in trouble. Draft should be manadatory and if you don't go you will be shot on sight.

A person is smart but people are stupid, fearfull, reckless animals. To control our socity we need to strip them of all free choice, we need to punish our media with death when trashing our goverment. Free thought is okay, think how you want but the moment you open your mouth to trash us you'll be hung and pubicly disembowed. Our nation does need change. We need to step away from allowing so many freedoms, we need to lock down our borders and we need to takes the heads of countrys we don't like.

Its simple, our change need to be less freedom and more action. We hear alot of talk but has anyone gotten off their ****ing asses and done something, no.

The only position america should take is to control the world and pull back our treaties and laws and begin to expand our foothold of the world.

DO NOT WANT!

Crowskie
04-18-2008, 04:58 PM
I'm hardcore republican. I hate all of our canidates. Freedom needs to be taken away from people, freedom has gotten us in trouble. Draft should be manadatory and if you don't go you will be shot on sight.

A person is smart but people are stupid, fearfull, reckless animals. To control our socity we need to strip them of all free choice, we need to punish our media with death when trashing our goverment. Free thought is okay, think how you want but the moment you open your mouth to trash us you'll be hung and pubicly disembowed. Our nation does need change. We need to step away from allowing so many freedoms, we need to lock down our borders and we need to takes the heads of countrys we don't like.

Its simple, our change need to be less freedom and more action. We hear alot of talk but has anyone gotten off their ****ing asses and done something, no.

The only position america should take is to control the world and pull back our treaties and laws and begin to expand our foothold of the world.

I can't tell if you are joking, and that makes me sad.

BlackIce, British Commie
04-18-2008, 05:01 PM
I can't tell if you are joking, and that makes me sad.

I can't either, however if this is not a joke, us Brits and Eurofags are nuking Virginia off the map. We don't take Nazi **** like that. And don't ****ing card me for Godwin's.

Icehawk
04-18-2008, 05:11 PM
As a born again conservative and card carrying republician I find I agree with Mopman.
Joking or not.

I would like to see a political force take over that would force a return to common sense. No more sueing over stupid ****. Hey you smoked for 35 years now you want to sue big tobacco? You bought hot coffee (no pun) and sue over burning yourself? Eat McDonalds everyday and sue over being fat? Idiots.
A return to a government for and of the people. Not lying, rich or the "in crowd". Barring that at least to have a campaign free of slurs and slander. If you were found to be spreading negative things about your opponent you LOSE.

I would really love to see America (and in turn Americans) remember they are part of the World. NOT the center of it. Lets try to understand and accept peoples of other countries. Not saying they have to agree but they should at least respect them and their culture.

Change? Oh yes we need change. But more than that we need a bleeding miracle.

KN
04-18-2008, 05:15 PM
Here's a nugget of wisdom:

If you currently consider yourself a democrat or republican, and want the US to change, in whatever way you deem to be positive, you are in the wrong party

Icehawk
04-18-2008, 05:20 PM
Here's a nugget of wisdom:

If you currently consider yourself a democrat or republican, and want the US to change, in whatever way you deem to be positive, you are in the wrong party

Meaningless and not helpful but very deep.

It is not always easy to know who or what to vote For. Voting against something tends to take less effort and research.

Crowskie
04-18-2008, 06:13 PM
As a born again conservative and card carrying republician I find I agree with Mopman.
Joking or not.

So your response to America's issue with ignorance, apathy, and greed is Fascism? Not outright Fascism, but close enough. The problems you are describing are at least in part because of, and defiantly allowed by, the fact that individualism becoming more and more prominent. People are unaware or simply do not care about others as much as they should. There is little group consciousness outside of situations where it is forced.

I would like to see a political force take over that would force a return to common sense. No more sueing over stupid ****. Hey you smoked for 35 years now you want to sue big tobacco? You bought hot coffee (no pun) and sue over burning yourself? Eat McDonalds everyday and sue over being fat? Idiots.

If you started smoking before the effects were made public, but were known by the tobacco industry, I think the case is legitimate. If you started smoking after, yes, you are an idiot. Eating fast food and suing for being unhealthy? Dumb. Suing because McDonald's failed to list the use of certain products known to cause health problems is items such as salads that are marketed as being healthy? Legitimate, probably shouldn't be a lawsuit, but MD should offer some medical compensation voluntarily, IMO.

I assume you are also referring to the indecent where the woman spilled coffee on her lap and sued McDonald's?

"The sweatpants Liebeck was wearing absorbed the coffee and held it next
to her skin. A vascular surgeon determined that Liebeck suffered full
thickness burns (or third-degree burns) over 6 percent of her body,
including her inner thighs, perineum, buttocks, and genital and groin
areas. She was hospitalized for eight days, during which time she
underwent skin grafting. Liebeck, who also underwent debridement
treatments, sought to settle her claim for $20,000, but McDonalds
refused."
Read the facts here. (http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm)

There are a lot of frivolous lawsuits, but I really don't think there is this epidemic that a lot of doomsday types would have you believe. I've done research on this (it has been a few years, tough) and most of these cases are immediately dismissed.

A return to a government for and of the people. Not lying, rich or the "in crowd". Barring that at least to have a campaign free of slurs and slander. If you were found to be spreading negative things about your opponent you LOSE.

As much as I would enjoy banning negative campaining, you are basically stifleing debate here, which is far worse.

I would really love to see America (and in turn Americans) remember they are part of the World. NOT the center of it. Lets try to understand and accept peoples of other countries. Not saying they have to agree but they should at least respect them and their culture.

Change? Oh yes we need change. But more than that we need a bleeding miracle.

I very much agree with this, and that is why I think diplomacy is a much more important issue that most people think it is. I mean the PRESIDENT of Iran was in our country and our President basically snubbed him. Stupid. Isolationism can not work in our growing global society.

ZippyDSMlee
04-18-2008, 07:18 PM
I'll toss my half cent in

Moleman and shiro chan have a point.

THe US should care for itself but not be snobby, this wont ever happen until the elitists 2 party system is broken and dun away with, government needs more protection from private money, we need a draft to maybe make government pause and think WTF its doing with tis citizens because the citizenry will get off tis butt and complain if theirs a bad war on,when theres no draft in play they are lazy pigs, it is almost as if being polictailty correct and coddling the US government has made the populace that more meek and woolie.

MCcain and Hilery are sellouts IMO for power and politics they have sold their soul, Obama is more pure but still 80% "black" he is a aristocrat after all and by default out of touch with reality.


One of the problems as I see it is if tis not a dim or reaper the public wont vote for it and a none of the above choice is not always on the ballot, they have rigged the game, you vote is wasted any way you do it it would seem.

At this point and time I am leaning Obama or Mccain, I just can not see Hillery balancing the needs of the nation its bad enough both Mccain and Obama will suck at it, Hillery will make the US into ameri fag central.....

Crowskie
If you started smoking before the effects were made public, but were known by the tobacco industry, I think the case is legitimate. If you started smoking after, yes, you are an idiot. Eating fast food and suing for being unhealthy? Dumb. Suing because McDonald's failed to list the use of certain products known to cause health problems is items such as salads that are marketed as being healthy? Legitimate, probably shouldn't be a lawsuit, but MD should offer some medical compensation voluntarily, IMO.

I assume you are also referring to the indecent where the woman spilled coffee on her lap and sued McDonald's?

"The sweatpants Liebeck was wearing absorbed the coffee and held it next
to her skin. A vascular surgeon determined that Liebeck suffered full
thickness burns (or third-degree burns) over 6 percent of her body,
including her inner thighs, perineum, buttocks, and genital and groin
areas. She was hospitalized for eight days, during which time she
underwent skin grafting. Liebeck, who also underwent debridement
treatments, sought to settle her claim for $20,000, but McDonalds
refused."
Read the facts here.

There are a lot of frivolous lawsuits, but I really don't think there is this epidemic that a lot of doomsday types would have you believe. I've done research on this (it has been a few years, tough) and most of these cases are immediately dismissed.
Sorry there is a reason why they have been called cancer sticks for over 60 years....

Flivorus law suits need to be filtered perhaps make a board to handle them and have judges turn it over to them before it proceeds, something needs to be done.

So your response to America's issue with ignorance, apathy, and greed is Fascism? Not outright Fascism, but close enough. The problems you are describing are at least in part because of, and defiantly allowed by, the fact that individualism becoming more and more prominent. People are unaware or simply do not care about others as much as they should. There is little group consciousness outside of situations where it is forced.
proper regulation, we need a draft to focus the amsses,if not a army draft at the least a American core to teach the populace discipline while they are young and what not and if you are wiling to sign up you can sublet for army duty and serve in combat zones.

The problem with Iraq is the country went into a war without telling the people, without treating it as a war but a minor police action the US screwed things up so bad on so many levels we need to do something to get the masses inflamed enough so the country can right itself, if that takes a draft to make America "America" again then so be it, either we mature as a nation or default to petty socialism/Fascism (or Fascism based captilisim where the corporate state runs all) because the country can not maintain itself any other way.
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I very much agree with this, and that is why I think diplomacy is a much more important issue that most people think it is. I mean the PRESIDENT of Iran was in our country and our President basically snubbed him. Stupid. Isolationism can not work in our growing global society.

Yes I can agree to that however I think we need to Isolate our economy form the world alil more and protect it alot more.

mopman411
04-19-2008, 12:28 AM
I wasn't joking about anything I said earlier. I mean it all. I have watched a great nation fall apart at the hands of democrats and the republicans willing to bend over and take it in the arse while claiming to stick to their parties views. The dems have only gotten more left and the reps have been pulled to the middle. This is revolting to watch. I want change. Not lightly buttered black boy but real change that I will never trust to a woman bent on power and shafting the man.

We need to tap our oil reserves and drill off shore and in all areas we own. Our nation has begun to bend to the wills of others and we have been raped by free market oil prices. This needs to change and the world needs to see the power of an angry america. we were founded on blood and war and its time the world knows what the blood of an american can do.

Next we won't waste our money building anymore fences to protect our borders. We need a ****ing mine field, 3 miles wide and the outter paramiter guarded by automated turrots. Then we will welcome mexicans and anyother people that want in with open arms, just walk the path.

The other thing, is that the draft will be instated. Following graduation from high school a person will serve 4 years in the service, if they choose to stay longer then the goverment will pay for higher education. For the losers that can't make it they will server 4 years of other service. Either to the state goverment or to the US goverment. It doesn't matter. people will gain respect for their own nation again. Thwy will know what it means to bleed for a cuase, either thru sweat or their own blood. Our nation is losing ground with its own people.

As in goverment we use checks and balances to control each part of our nation. the same should be true for the publice. Media needs checks and balances, business needs checks and balances, everything should have some form of check and balance. Media won't be cut off and they can produce as they please but no longer shall the stupid of our nation be mislead by the rants of some TV god they see. Far too many people are sweighed by things said by one person, it jsut takes one catchy phrase and their minds have been raped. Checks and balances will keep media in line, it will keep them from further demoralizing the nation.

We don't need change, we need a GOD **** revolution. Democrats and Republicans have become the whips by which we enslave ourselves. Take a ****ing stand for our nation.

----eidt-----

The other thing to realize s that this president and what not didn't ruin this nation, they didn't start this war and they haven't been the only cause for life as it is today.

The war, ignored by the Clintons. Compleatly ignored!!! They were too busy flying the world spending us tax dollars in other nations to boost their bank account and gain power.

Fact, this nation has been building and economy rising so fast, what did you think would happen. The bubble can only get so big before it pops. Checks and balances are needed to keep the retards safe from spending what they ain't got.

This war has been going on since bush senior, ignored by the clintons and brought back to the forefront by bush junior. this is a needed war. their back yard or ours, you flaming morons. you wanna pull our troops out the shove a plug to stop them from coming here. this began a long time ago and if you leave the bees alone they only grow lager and stronger, you gonna get your ass stung at some point. we did, now we sting ack and you ***** about soldiers dying in a needless war. if it was so needless why did they go thru all the trouble to bring it on our turf and plan enough to try to bring down our economy. we are a nation built on war. DAMNIT, we will finish what we began, we will either walk away knowing we have a goverment setup to lead a nation to further develop and aid us or well wade they the pools of blood knowing there is no need to dwell on spilt milk.

ZippyDSMlee
04-19-2008, 12:56 AM
I wasn't joking about anything I said earlier. I mean it all. I have watched a great nation fall apart at the hands of democrats and the republicans willing to bend over and take it in the arse while claiming to stick to their parties views. The dems have only gotten more left and the reps have been pulled to the middle. This is revolting to watch. I want change. Not lightly buttered black boy but real change that I will never trust to a woman bent on power and shafting the man.

I don;t even think the reapers have gotten more centrist they have become sellouts using the bible to qualm the masses while they rape anything in sight claiming the high ground while doing it.
the dims are just socialistic PC nazis nothign new there LULZ


We need to tap our oil reserves and drill off shore and in all areas we own. Our nation has begun to bend to the wills of others and we have been raped by free market oil prices. This needs to change and the world needs to see the power of an angry america. we were founded on blood and war and its time the world knows what the blood of an american can do.
Good point we need to protect out nation more.

Next we won't waste our money building anymore fences to protect our borders. We need a ****ing mine field, 3 miles wide and the outter paramiter guarded by automated turrots. Then we will welcome mexicans and anyother people that want in with open arms, just walk the path.
pointless bro,they is lemmings.

The other thing, is that the draft will be instated. Following graduation from high school a person will serve 4 years in the service, if they choose to stay longer then the goverment will pay for higher education. For the losers that can't make it they will server 4 years of other service. Either to the state goverment or to the US goverment. It doesn't matter. people will gain respect for their own nation again. Thwy will know what it means to bleed for a cuase, either thru sweat or their own blood. Our nation is losing ground with its own people.
I do think a national core is a good idea, put some sense into the willy masses, put the slackers and hippes to work cleaning up sht and serving the fighters and builders...and no not that kind of "serving"

As in goverment we use checks and balances to control each part of our nation. the same should be true for the publice. Media needs checks and balances, business needs checks and balances, everything should have some form of check and balance. Media won't be cut off and they can produce as they please but no longer shall the stupid of our nation be mislead by the rants of some TV god they see. Far too many people are sweighed by things said by one person, it jsut takes one catchy phrase and their minds have been raped. Checks and balances will keep media in line, it will keep them from further demoralizing the nation.
The only checks for media is government censorship, once we go there the US is no longer the US.

We don't need change, we need a GOD **** revolution. Democrats and Republicans have become the whips by which we enslave ourselves. Take a ****ing stand for our nation.
Vivala revolution oh wai... lets have us one of thos rev e lul u tion thingies and but the fire back in the US.

:eek:

but really the US is doomed to being a half wit socialistic nation with capitalistic overtones, we my brothers are screwed,least it wont fall apart in my life time, I'l probably be dead in 10 years..