CNN, Video Games appeal "We get to kill people".

[Brokenscope]

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tech/2007/12/16/whitfield.violent.video.games.cnn

Watch the video.

Eh, I just can't manage anything thoughtful to say about it.

[CMiner]

Annoyingly/Depressingly slanted.. Producer seems to have had her opinion set from the beginning, and it shows throughout.

[Tom]

Annoyingly/Depressingly slanted.. Reporter seems to have had her opinion set from the beginning, and it shows throughout.

That wasn't the reporter, that was the producer. The reporter seemed reasonable about it but the producer was the one who chose to stack the piece with parents shopping for kids and kids who want to "kill people."

You know what I'm concerned with? I'm concerned with a kid who only wants to play a game because he gets to kill people. That's messed up.

[KN]

You know what I'm concerned with? I'm concerned with a kid who only wants to play a game because he gets to kill people. That's messed up.

I'm really not. I'd be more concerned if he joined the NRA Youth Army or whatever the **** they have and honed his target-shooting skills.

[Meggo]

lol... I just can't keep a straight face when there's a guy saying, "well, it's the mario," when he's asked what's a hot videogame for the holiday season.

Yeah, pretty slanted. I don't like the "you don't know what's in the game until you buy it argument," because game reviews are plentiful and informative.

It is a little disturbing that this kid likes to play this game (couldn't tell what it was) to kill people. "You get to kill people." I'm really hoping he likes the killing because he can get away with it, and not the actual act of killing. As long as he understands that's not something you do IRL, he'll be okay.

[Daniel_B_Nordlund]

Of course there's going to be alot of this in todays media...Editors and producers only want the juicy stuff.

Now about the kid who likes to "kill people"...I'm more upset at his parents...or lack there of. You can tell at his age he has no moral compass or judgment and his parents not seeing that is just pure neglegant abuse. He was playing Heavenly Sword BTW. The irresponsibility these parents have to let their kid say that is just astounding...OR they could have been paid a nice chunck of cash to have that kid say it...you never know these days.

[Thefremen]

Of course there's going to be alot of this in todays media...Editors and producers only want the juicy stuff.

Now about the kid who likes to "kill people"...I'm more upset at his parents...or lack there of. You can tell at his age he has no moral compass or judgment and his parents not seeing that is just pure neglegant abuse. He was playing Heavenly Sword BTW. The irresponsibility these parents have to let their kid say that is just astounding...OR they could have been paid a nice chunck of cash to have that kid say it...you never know these days.

Agree'd. It's disturbing as those reviews I've read of air rifles where some kid is like "this rifle is gud i shot squireels with eet lol omg bbq" (shopping for one for target use ONLY).

[Tom]

Of course there's going to be alot of this in todays media...Editors and producers only want the juicy stuff.

Now about the kid who likes to "kill people"...I'm more upset at his parents...or lack there of. You can tell at his age he has no moral compass or judgment and his parents not seeing that is just pure neglegant abuse. He was playing Heavenly Sword BTW. The irresponsibility these parents have to let their kid say that is just astounding...OR they could have been paid a nice chunck of cash to have that kid say it...you never know these days.

Thinking about that, what's the responsibility of the store in featuring a violent game at a demo kiosk?

[steelcobra]

Agree'd. It's disturbing as those reviews I've read of air rifles where some kid is like "this rifle is gud i shot squireels with eet lol omg bbq" (shopping for one for target use ONLY).

Squirrels can be quite an annoyance in the city, and out in the country some people hunt for squirrell.

[beemoh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8azYn3iheqA

[KingPenguin]

Well, that's a bit off topic, now.

Anyway, I liked that the report initially presented the gore on/off function as increasing the violence in games rather than the opposite. "You don't know if the ratings are accurate, because you can turn the gore on and off! Think of the goomba guts under Mario's boots my kids could be seeing right now!"

[Daniel_B_Nordlund]

Thinking about that, what's the responsibility of the store in featuring a violent game at a demo kiosk?

Take it in stride as if you had a retail store. I'd openly advertise violent video games and also endorse the ESRB at the same time and make sure parents know what they are buying for whomever. i see no problem if i see a target has a lair, warhawk, splinter cell, rainbow six demo kiosk usually it loops involving a ESRB run down.

But if parents fall prey to their own ignorance by not looking into the game. Thats their own fault and handing assimlated condemnation over to whomever they give the game to may it be mario party to manhunt 2...

a good question to ask is, is every violence bad?

[Tom]

Take it in stride as if you had a retail store. I'd openly advertise violent video games and also endorse the ESRB at the same time and make sure parents know what they are buying for whomever. i see no problem if i see a target has a lair, warhawk, splinter cell, rainbow six demo kiosk usually it loops involving a ESRB run down.

But if parents fall prey to their own ignorance by not looking into the game. Thats their own fault and handing assimlated condemnation over to whomever they give the game to may it be mario party to manhunt 2...

a good question to ask is, is every violence bad?

Broader questions like "is every violence bad" have been dealt with by many other minds :)

I'm just wondering that if broad segments of the population are condemning video games for their violent content, why aren't people similarly condemning stores that have violent games freely playable on demo kiosks?

Who's at greater fault, a game developer who creates a violent game intended for adults, or the retailer who puts that game in a demo kiosk that kids have access to?

[Daniel_B_Nordlund]

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Who's at greater fault, a game developer who creates a violent game intended for adults that occasionally gets into the hands of minors, or the retailer who puts that game in a demo kiosk that kids have access to when not fully monitored by their parents?

I hardly see game demos being given out anymore. Gamestop, Gamecrazy, Funcoland, EB Games, targets, wal-marts and kmarts...rarley have any demos to hand out from what I've seen and asked. Like i stated before many stores have game play "commercial" type videos playing that people can view and ask more questions on.

[Tom]

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I hardly see game demos being given out anymore. Gamestop, Gamecrazy, Funcoland, EB Games, targets, wal-marts and kmarts...rarley have any demos to hand out from what I've seen and asked. Like i stated before many stores have game play "commercial" type videos playing that people can view and ask more questions on.

I'm not talking about giving out game demos, I'm talking about playable kiosks in the stores. Just a thought, but it seems odd to allow something considered "offensive" to be publicly viewed in a store. I mean, legally a store could display "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" on their demo TVs but most wouldn't because the majority of their consumers would consider it offensive and complain - but they would complain about the store. I'm wondering why people would walk into a store, see a violent game being demoed and say, "I can't believe the games they're making!" rather then "I can't believe the store is letting kids play this game!"

I suppose that's the major difference between the way people view games versus other media.

[Thefremen]

I'm not talking about giving out game demos, I'm talking about playable kiosks in the stores. Just a thought, but it seems odd to allow something considered "offensive" to be publicly viewed in a store. I mean, legally a store could display "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" on their demo TVs but most wouldn't because the majority of their consumers would consider it offensive and complain - but they would complain about the store. I'm wondering why people would walk into a store, see a violent game being demoed and say, "I can't believe the games they're making!" rather then "I can't believe the store is letting kids play this game!"

I suppose that's the major difference between the way people view games versus other media.

Yup, like when people get all offended because they play Cannibal Corpse at Hot Topic.