Jade,Assassin’s Creed and free blow jobs.

[ZippyDSMlee]

http://gamepolitics.com/2007/11/19/ubisoft-attorneys-target-graphic-parody-of-assassins-creed-spokeswoman/


Its a cheap shot at her for sure but it carries IMO a deeper commentary over the fluff and bile in newer games, less content and options for the same or more moeny that a few years ago is starting to frustrate the outer edges of gamdom, tis hard to enjoy hobby where all the new stuff is flawed and short.

The pic in question is buried somewhere in teh digg
http://digg.com/gaming_news/Ubisoft_threatens_legal_action_over_pornographic_d epiction_of_Jade_Raymond?KeepThis=true&TB_iframe=true&height=400&width=780
, if you are mature enough to handle the immature cum/bj jokes you'll see it as a cheap joke with a comment on how some games are solid to the public T&A sells be it virtual or real.

As a PR person she should damn well know that sex is a double edged sword used to sell products!

[Hannah]

The comic isn't particularly funny, in my opinion, but it's not all that offensive either. Raymond is a public figure, so she should probably get used to such parodies.

[Brokenscope]

It might have been funny if assassins creed wasn't a good game. It might be funny if the implied criticism was directed at a target that might have earned it.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/rumor-smash/jade-in-green-and-white-striped-bikini-320260.php

Thats the thing that motivated him.

[ZippyDSMlee]

The comic isn't particularly funny, in my opinion, but it's not all that offensive either. Raymond is a public figure, so she should probably get used to such parodies.

at worst its a cheap shot at her and ubi at best it a off commentary on selling games with T&A.

really tho I wish more people would pick on bad games than merely mediocre ones.

[Brokenscope]

If he wanted to make a commentary on T&A he had thousands of video game characters to choose from and thousands of games.

It was a cheap shot directed at one person and one person only.

[ZippyDSMlee]

It might have been funny if assassins creed wasn't a good game. It might be funny if the implied criticism was directed at a target that might have earned it.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/rumor-smash/jade-in-green-and-white-striped-bikini-320260.php

Thats the thing that motivated him.

So you are saying the indutry as a whole dose not use sex to sell products?

edit

[Brokenscope]

Where did I say they didn't?

[ZippyDSMlee]

If he wanted to make a commentary on T&A he had thousands of video game characters to choose from and thousands of games.

It was a cheap shot directed at one person and one person only.

SO he took some creative leince to ride the launch of a game, he's actually alil smarter than you give him credit for, he lined his ducks in a row and we all are talking about it.

edit
IMO its no "worse" than wrongly hyping a game.

[Brokenscope]

He is only as intelligent as every other ass who uses controversy to gain attention

[Hannah]

He is only as intelligent as every other dumb ass who pisses people of to gain attention.

And? You're giving it to him.

[ZippyDSMlee]

He is only as intelligent as every other ass who uses controversy to gain attention
Like any good PR person or group....

And? You're giving it to him.

Good one hanna ne *pounce*=^0^=

[Brokenscope]

No giving it to him would be linking his comic, which knowing him is what he wants.

Like any good PR person or group....

Then why do people waste time going to college to get degrees in marketing and pr.

[Hannah]

No giving it to him would be linking his comic, which knowing him is what he wants.



Then why do people waste time going to college to get degrees in marketing and pr.

You know... all this bitching is what encouraged me to seek out the comic in the first place :p

[ZippyDSMlee]

No giving it to him would be linking his comic, which knowing him is what he wants.



Then why do people waste time going to college to get degrees in marketing and pr.

TO understand a subject with too much infermation :P

and I can't find his comic on his site,he must have pulled it there.

[Brokenscope]

He never actually put it up as a sequential.

[ZippyDSMlee]

You know... all this bitching is what encouraged me to seek out the comic in the first place :p

Its because people care I care....wha? LOL
:P

[beemoh]

As a PR person she should damn well know that sex is a double edged sword used to sell products!

Jade isn't PR- she's development.

[Hannah]

Jade isn't PR- she's development.

They've been using her for PR... probably because she's hot.

[Brokenscope]

Shes been one of the major interview targets, and the games main spokesman. However I think there were only 3 interviews that were done? Most of assasins creeds stuff has been gameplay videos.

Shes also the producer, and it isn't here first role as a producer.

[Hannah]

Shes been one of the major interview targets, and the games main spokesman. However I think there were only 3 interviews that were done? Most of assasins creeds stuff has been gameplay videos.

Shes also the producer, and it isn't here first role as a producer.

Again, they probably picked her to go in front of the camera largely because she's hot... and in any case, it's not like other game industry figures have never been parodied, cruelly or otherwise.

[ZippyDSMlee]

Shes been one of the major interview targets, and the games main spokesman. However I think there were only 3 interviews that were done? Most of assasins creeds stuff has been gameplay videos.

Shes also the producer, and it isn't here first role as a producer.

Producer eh.... well shes more PR with how she lets herself be used to sell the game, I would be interested to see what her full resume is ,computer science can be misleading sometimes but it looks to be from a good collage.
http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/academic/undergrad/programs/cs

[Brokenscope]

She started as a programmer.

[ZippyDSMlee]

She started as a programmer.

I know it sates that in the wiki but dose not say more than that, sometimes resumes and degress are fluffed ,altho she probably has more skill than half "teh net" and they hate her for it :P

[Hannah]

I know it sates that in the wiki but dose not say more than that, sometimes resumes and degress are fluffed ,altho she probably has more skill than half "teh net" and they hate her for it :P

McGill is a good school, though...

[ZippyDSMlee]

McGill is a good school, though...

ture ture,I'd still like to drool over the full resume programing+ PR and producing, truly the world hates beauty and talent in one person ^_~.

[KN]

HEY GUYS THIS IS THE INTERNET

k?

[MaskedPixelante]

Ninja Dad says "TAKE A JOKE!" Seriously, it's just a comic strip, made by a couple of British guys, what could they even do?

[Demontestament]

You know reading his rants on the site "Lotax" makes himself sound like a complete badass, but isn't he the same guy who got his ass kicked by Uwe Bowle? How can he still act like a badass when he got his face punched in by Uwe Bowle? Anyway about the comic, haven't seen it but from what I have read it sound like another couple dickless assholes taking a cheap shot on a woman.

[BlackIce, British Commie]

I'm just about disgusted by it. Imagine someone put your wife, girlfriend, daughter, sister or mother in a comic like that? You're telling me you wouldn't mind?

[KN]

You know reading his rants on the site "Lotax" makes himself sound like a complete badass, but isn't he the same guy who got his ass kicked by Uwe Bowle? How can he still act like a badass when he got his face punched in by Uwe Bowle? Anyway about the comic, haven't seen it but from what I have read it sound like another couple dickless assholes taking a cheap shot on a woman.

Lowtax has nothing to do with it, but Ubisoft sent him the email anyway. So yeah, he gets to act bad-assy for a while.


Listen. If you hear these things:

A. Pretty lady of the female sex (WITH BOOBS AND VAGINA OMG OMG OMG) maeks video games!
B. Going to appear naked!

Then you think Killcreek and Daikatana (Look that **** up). The comic was made before the internal Ubisoft rumour mill got the "HAI GAIS JADE IS GOING TO BE NEKKID IN MAGAZINE" thing back to Jade so she could say it wasn't true. If she HAD done this, she would have been no better than Killcreek, and the comic would have been justified. It was just done a bit early.

PS: THIS IS THE INTERNET GAIS SRSLY STOP BAWWING

PPS: Jade's way hotter than Killcreek.

PPPS: Uguu

[Brokenscope]

ture ture,I'd still like to drool over the full resume programing+ PR and producing, truly the world hates beauty and talent in one person ^_~.

Im pretty sure shes got the typical "Im not that artistic but I want to make videogame skills, and actually mean it".

You know good knowledge of general theoretical computer science, coupled with decent to good programming skills. Basically a CS degree coupled with a fair amount of non course related programming work.

[KN]

PPPPS: A creepy guy at Ubi wants to get into Jade's pants, hence the cluster****

[BlackIce, British Commie]

Lowtax has nothing to do with it, but Ubisoft sent him the email anyway. So yeah, he gets to act bad-assy for a while.


Listen. If you hear these things:

A. Pretty lady of the female sex (WITH BOOBS AND VAGINA OMG OMG OMG) maeks video games!
B. Going to appear naked!

Then you think Killcreek and Daikatana (Look that **** up). The comic was made before the internal Ubisoft rumour mill got the "HAI GAIS JADE IS GOING TO BE NEKKID IN MAGAZINE" thing back to Jade so she could say it wasn't true. If she HAD done this, she would have been no better than Killcreek, and the comic would have been justified. It was just done a bit early.

PS: THIS IS THE INTERNET GAIS SRSLY STOP BAWWING

PPS: Jade's way hotter than Killcreek.

PPPS: Uguu

So.. That justifies it? Somehow I don't think it does.

[KN]

So.. That justifies it? Somehow I don't think it does.

Damn the artist for not possessing future-vision!


PPPPPS: I wonder if they realize they made it WORSE by responding.

[Brokenscope]

Damn him? The guy who made the comic knew that something would happen.

[KN]

Wait, the Chugworth guy drew this? THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING. FORGET EVERYTHING I SAID.

BURN HIM

[Brokenscope]

You only just realized? The art style was a dead giveaway.

[ZippyDSMlee]

Wait, the Chugworth guy drew this? THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING. FORGET EVERYTHING I SAID.

BURN HIM

LOL
wat happen to to, "is net love the teh net" ? :P

[BlackIce, British Commie]

LOL
wat happen to to, "is net love the teh net" ? :P

I really need to screw a translator out of someone..

[ZippyDSMlee]

I really need to screw a translator out of someone..

=^^=
One must learn to laugh and pity what the dencizns of the net do ^^

Hatered leads to PCisim ,PCISIM to zero tolerance, and zero tolerance will burn the world because is not "purrfect"!
How dose a lack o cat girls play into it I dunno but it just dose, trust me!


:D

[BlackIce, British Commie]

=^^=
One must learn to laugh and pity what the dencizns of the net do ^^

Hatered leads to PCisim ,PCISIM to zero tolerance, and zero tolerance will burn the world because is not "purrfect"!
How dose a lack o cat girls play into it I dunno but it just dose, trust me!


:D

You what now?:p

[steelcobra]

You know reading his rants on the site "Lotax" makes himself sound like a complete badass, but isn't he the same guy who got his ass kicked by Uwe Bowle? How can he still act like a badass when he got his face punched in by Uwe Bowle? Anyway about the comic, haven't seen it but from what I have read it sound like another couple dickless assholes taking a cheap shot on a woman.

Uwe Boll is a semi-pro boxer who picked a bunch of guys who stood no chance against him, instead of, say, Seanbaby, who actually knows martial arts.

[MaskedPixelante]

=^^=
One must learn to laugh and pity what the dencizns of the net do ^^

Hatered leads to PCisim ,PCISIM to zero tolerance, and zero tolerance will burn the world because is not "purrfect"!
How dose a lack o cat girls play into it I dunno but it just dose, trust me!


:D

Catgirls make everything better. If you have catgirls, you win automatically.

[ZippyDSMlee]

Catgirls make everything better. If you have catgirls, you win automatically.

=^0^=
!!
LOL

[KN]

LOL
wat happen to to, "is net love the teh net" ? :P

The Chugworth guy is not part of the internet. He's a cancer that grows on it.

LOL LOOPHOLES!

[Hannah]

I'm just about disgusted by it. Imagine someone put your wife, girlfriend, daughter, sister or mother in a comic like that? You're telling me you wouldn't mind?

Gotta love internet white knights...

Please, tell me: if an unusually attractive man in the game industry got this treatment, would you react the same way? Would you be telling us "Imagine someone put your husband, boyfriend, son, brother, or father in a comic like that?" I doubt it. You'd probably laugh or ignore it.

The sheer fact that you're all rushing to defend her is pretty damn sexist in and of itself...

[ZippyDSMlee]

Gotta love internet white knights...

Please, tell me: if an unusually attractive man in the game industry got this treatment, would you react the same way? Would you be telling us "Imagine someone put your husband, boyfriend, son, brother, or father in a comic like that?" I doubt it. You'd probably laugh or ignore it.

The sheer fact that you're all rushing to defend her is pretty damn sexist in and of itself...

Its like the feminists that think NSFW means not safe for women :rolleyes:

[nightwng2000]

Maybe it's my age. But I've come to see the multitudes of attitudes that one individual can show for another.

Let's face it, I'm a heterosexual male who is attracted to beautiful women.

BUT, at the same time, I realize that being beautiful doesn't encompass the whole individual.

Ok, Jade is hot and will definitely create a number of fantasies for me. Especially after seeing the photoshop picture.

Now, about Assassin's Creed. Her beauty isn't the selling point for me. Certainly, that may have been on the minds that put Jade in the spotlight. That her beauty WAS the selling point.

I've seen the video review on GameSpot. THAT is my selling point.

Is the comic a detracting selling point? Nope. It's stupid and, in a sense, it is disrespectful to Jade (I don't do that crap "it's disrespectful to women" or other groups, that, too, is stupid). I didn't find it funny, but that's just me. I might very well be more upset if she were someone I was close to.

But, as pointed out, Public people are going to be treated like this, and many other ways. It's a downside to being Public. Will it be a negative towards her career? I can't see how. The Products for me are the selling point. Even if she had been a stripper, prostitute or appeared in Playboy (all of which tend to traditionally be career killers) wouldn't matter to me.

Should Ubi Soft not stand up for their employee and defend them? I say they should. They shouldn't expect to get what they want, but at least they will APPEAR to have a higher level of respect for Jade than what they appeared to have when they put her as the PR person (because of her looks).

After reading and viewing the Assassin Creed reviews, I'm still not quite sure if that's what I want to get when I do the big trade in of old games or not. There aren't many good ones coming out for the 360 in the next week or so that I'm interested in.

But, hey, at least I've got a beautiful picture of photoshop Jade to add to my perv folder. :D

[Brokenscope]

Night, thank you for adding your unique and fresh perspective. :)

[BlackIce, British Commie]

Gotta love internet white knights...

Please, tell me: if an unusually attractive man in the game industry got this treatment, would you react the same way? Would you be telling us "Imagine someone put your husband, boyfriend, son, brother, or father in a comic like that?" I doubt it. You'd probably laugh or ignore it.

The sheer fact that you're all rushing to defend her is pretty damn sexist in and of itself...

Actually, i'm more of the Internet's Red Threat..

In those words, no. Still, I would say something. Assuming of course, that said bloke is real.. I don't like disrespecting or insulting specifics.

You are the strangest woman i've ever, ever met. Most of you lot follow the same or roughly similar thought track, but you are summink else.

[IonD.]

My ¢2,-

T&A sells be it virtual or real.

As a PR person she should damn well know that sex is a double edged sword used to sell products!
True words, naturally, but I have seen loads of interviews with Jade through the years, and in none of them has she deliberately played on sex or her feminine viles to get attention. Not one.

She has, however, always been professional, eloquent, open and forthcoming, has smiled and been polite, and has, as far as I have been able to make out, always made the interviewer feel at ease with interviewing her. This type of empathic behavior is very often mistaken for flirting, but is something completely different.

As for her role as game producer, let me tell you that nowadays, this producer role is far closer to that of movie director than you might think, and incorporated into it lies a lot of PR - the press will want to talk to someone in charge of the project, a person of authority, and management will want someone as a forefigure for a project for the very same reason that a movie director is so often the forefigure for a movie. The fact that she's a beautiful woman in an industry that is still predominantly popluated by men may very well mean she's getting more attention than if she were a man.

Gotta love internet white knights...

Please, tell me: if an unusually attractive man in the game industry got this treatment, would you react the same way? Would you be telling us "Imagine someone put your husband, boyfriend, son, brother, or father in a comic like that?" I doubt it. You'd probably laugh or ignore it.

The sheer fact that you're all rushing to defend her is pretty damn sexist in and of itself...
That's almost mean, but the point is well taken. Who knows, really? Men are very seldom treated in this way, and there is that notion that they can and/or should defend themselves, regardless of whether or not they are pretty.

The comic itself, however... I've yet to make up my mind if I think is particularly good or bad. One thing is for certain, though, and that is that it is in poor taste. If you want to poke fun out of Jade's percieved booty-shaking to sell Assassins Creed to nerds, there are far more elegant ways to draw those parallels.

[ZippyDSMlee]

My ¢2,-


True words, naturally, but I have seen loads of interviews with Jade through the years, and in none of them has she deliberately played on sex or her feminine viles to get attention. Not one.

She has, however, always been professional, eloquent, open and forthcoming, has smiled and been polite, and has, as far as I have been able to make out, always made the interviewer feel at ease with interviewing her. This type of empathic behavior is very often mistaken for flirting, but is something completely different.

As for her role as game producer, let me tell you that nowadays, this producer role is far closer to that of movie director than you might think, and incorporated into it lies a lot of PR - the press will want to talk to someone in charge of the project, a person of authority, and management will want someone as a forefigure for a project for the very same reason that a movie director is so often the forefigure for a movie. The fact that she's a beautiful woman in an industry that is still predominantly popluated by men may very well mean she's getting more attention than if she were a man.


That's almost mean, but the point is well taken. Who knows, really? Men are very seldom treated in this way, and there is that notion that they can and/or should defend themselves, regardless of whether or not they are pretty.

The comic itself, however... I've yet to make up my mind if I think is particularly good or bad. One thing is for certain, though, and that is that it is in poor taste. If you want to poke fun out of Jade's percieved booty-shaking to sell Assassins Creed to nerds, there are far more elegant ways to draw those parallels.

meh, the net hates beauty and talent in one person :P