View Full Version : Ron paul on G4tv
ZippyDSMlee
07-18-2007, 12:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjiGNqmDCSI
wow hes sane 0-o
so when dose the other foot drop whats his pet peev that makes him not worth a vote?
Olbermann massacres Guiliani....hes scary when pissed 0-o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC0BhDGQuIg&mode=related&search=
nightwng2000
07-18-2007, 01:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjiGNqmDCSI
wow hes sane 0-o
so when dose the other foot drop whats his pet peev that makes him not worth a vote?
Olbermann massacres Guiliani....hes scary when pissed 0-o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC0BhDGQuIg&mode=related&search=
Based on his website www.ronpaul2008.com (http://www.ronpaul2008.com) , I can't believe that I'm interested in voting for a Republican. :eek:
ZippyDSMlee
07-18-2007, 01:40 PM
Based on his website www.ronpaul2008.com (http://www.ronpaul2008.com) , I can't believe that I'm interested in voting for a Republican. :eek:
he seems to be the most stabler minded of the lot 0-o
nightwng2000
07-18-2007, 01:52 PM
he seems to be the most stabler minded of the lot 0-o
Hey, the fact he ADMITS he doesn't know everything there is to know and that he is still learning is a shock for a politician. :)
ZippyDSMlee
07-18-2007, 01:59 PM
Hey, the fact he ADMITS he doesn't know everything there is to know and that he is still learning is a shock for a politician. :)
ZOMG the first adult politician!
LOL
Nononono, Ron Paul is a ****head. The more you look up on him the more you will hate him.
ZippyDSMlee
07-18-2007, 02:45 PM
Nononono, Ron Paul is a ****head. The more you look up on him the more you will hate him.
please post quotes and articles I am havign a hard time finding anythign thats worse than "Hitlary"....
really he wants goverment to not nanny adults or the world at this point and time who could be better? Hitlary who wants domination of the white house or oboma who's a basic noob poli......uhggg......
Pelor
07-18-2007, 05:35 PM
As much as I like Paul...
Treating Paul like God-almighty is as annoying as people who treat Bush like the Devil incarnate. You've taken two parts of his campaign and ignored all the rest.
People, who otherwise hate Libertarianism, have jumped on this bandwagon and think Ron Paul is a great guy. Why?
It's great that you're supporting his no-nanny stance, but come on... do you really want to do away with the income tax?
ZippyDSMlee
07-18-2007, 05:51 PM
As much as I like Paul...
Treating Paul like God-almighty is as annoying as people who treat Bush like the Devil incarnate. You've taken two parts of his campaign and ignored all the rest.
People, who otherwise hate Libertarianism, have jumped on this bandwagon and think Ron Paul is a great guy. Why?
It's great that you're supporting his no-nanny stance, but come on... do you really want to do away with the income tax?
that would be nice altho state/fed tax would what double? *L*
anyway he seems sane compared to the candidates the "party" of 1 are drooling for, and 3rd party candidates are instant fail so really the choices of evils are down to 2 ;_;
nightwng2000
07-18-2007, 06:41 PM
As much as I like Paul...
Treating Paul like God-almighty is as annoying as people who treat Bush like the Devil incarnate. You've taken two parts of his campaign and ignored all the rest.
People, who otherwise hate Libertarianism, have jumped on this bandwagon and think Ron Paul is a great guy. Why?
It's great that you're supporting his no-nanny stance, but come on... do you really want to do away with the income tax?
Well, I wouldn't say "God". But he's the least of all the evils.
According to his site, he's against the war. He's anti-abortion (I zipped through, so I don't know how much he bases his stance on religion but he does use his medical profession as a portion of his stance and the bill he's proposing is pretty interesting, but I'm not sure about all the other peripheral issues and his stances on those). He's in favor of Freedom of Expression while still making it clear that he is concerned for other's well being. And while I'm still trying to get my income tax withholding issue straightened out and I usually would get that back anyway, eliminating the tax altogether isn't a bad thing to me. Many of my taxes would be going to things I wouldn't support or don't need anyway.
ZippyDSMlee
07-18-2007, 07:05 PM
Well, I wouldn't say "God". But he's the least of all the evils.
According to his site, he's against the war. He's anti-abortion (I zipped through, so I don't know how much he bases his stance on religion but he does use his medical profession as a portion of his stance and the bill he's proposing is pretty interesting, but I'm not sure about all the other peripheral issues and his stances on those). He's in favor of Freedom of Expression while still making it clear that he is concerned for other's well being. And while I'm still trying to get my income tax withholding issue straightened out and I usually would get that back anyway, eliminating the tax altogether isn't a bad thing to me. Many of my taxes would be going to things I wouldn't support or don't need anyway.
from what I have heard hes a typical republican on morale grounds however he believes its up to the states to decide what its citizens do and its up to parents to parent their kids,hes not a "nani not" for adults,kids, parents or world hes not with the big brother crowed all in all hes not bad and compared to the lot of them hes down right friendly,he dose not have the swagger and "look" of Bush 'Ima mental drunk' Jr. or Rapegan(lets destroy welfare no one needs it anyway,lets make ketchup a vegiable,ect,ect)... meaning he dose not set off my "ZOMG Rap'e' King" alarm the rest of the reps do that and he cant be worse than Hitlary.....if she did not mix the snake oil as well as all the men do I would vote for her sadly shes just another poli pushing snake oil
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MachShot
07-22-2007, 01:34 AM
Uhh, not to be too off-topic or anything, but has anyone tried to read what the video information to the right says when you click (more)? Just so you know... don't.
Anywho, I don't know much about Ron Paul. I did see his interview on the Colbert and seems to be a likeable guy. But K_N has me wondering, so I'll look in to his resume of political views.
Thefremen
07-22-2007, 03:51 AM
If you don't like civil liberties and a free market he isn't for you.
Like most candidates he has his good points and his bad points. If I used your method then when someone asked me about GW I would say "If you hate Jesus and Love terrorists he isn't for you...".
The man is a classical example of a Libertarian. He thinks that somehow the market will magically take care of things like labeling foods as being made in china so we can avoid eating mercury and florine in our toothpaste, even though recent events have shown that in spite of consumer demand, retailers say "No".
The free market has a certain romance too it, and with Reagan we all now believe that Capitalism leads to freedom and there is no Historical precidents which show that idea as flawed.
I do agree with him in many ways, but mostly in the ways any logical person should: The constitution is the highest law of our land and should be followed. The President and Vice President are the executive branch, they have to pay respect to Congress which represents the people, etc etc...
If you don't like civil liberties and a free market he isn't for you.
THank you for your black and white analysis of Ron Jesus Christ Paul >_>
ZippyDSMlee
07-22-2007, 01:32 PM
Uhh, not to be too off-topic or anything, but has anyone tried to read what the video information to the right says when you click (more)? Just so you know... don't.
Anywho, I don't know much about Ron Paul. I did see his interview on the Colbert and seems to be a likeable guy. But K_N has me wondering, so I'll look in to his resume of political views.
KC tends to hate any republicans automatically when he should hate all politicians automaticly ^^
But really as far as Reps go hes it hes not a holly than thou high roller for the horde'o'corporate.
Hes better than the reps and hiltery ,Edwards might be better...but he seems to be a mindless dem so at best hes even with Ron,Oboma might be better.
ZippyDSMlee
07-22-2007, 03:25 PM
I dunno Ron Paul seems honest and he admits he doesn't know everything. But really he is the only candidate making a absolute stand for the constitution. He wants to end senseless policy, such as the war on drugs(which IMO creates drug related crime). He wants to stop wasting money on other countries and risking the life of americans for them as well. If we want to change other countries we should do it be setting a good example, not with guns. He doesn't want the government to have a say on anything that has to do with the internet. He wants the internet to remain completely free, he doesn't feel any law should be passed because that implies the government does have a say. He doesn't want to rely on loaned money from other countries instead he wants to repay those debts because and try to get rid of the budget deficit. A good way to go in that direction is to stop policing the globe.
His voting record speaks for itself, in particular he voted against the Iraq war and the Patriot act. He is pro life but wants the states to have a say on the laws surrounding the issue, which means sure he is pro life but he is allowing states to take their own stand on it. He wants to let us get out of SS because I personally won't be seeing any of that money. He wants people to be less reliant on the Government and me more self reliant.
And realize its impossible to do all of this in 4 years, hell its impossible to do in 8 years, but he wants to move in this direction. It isn't going to go like this over night, or over one presidency, or even two for that matter. He is simply going to reverse the trend of a federal government controlling more and more and returning the power to the people and state and local governments.
I only wish my analysis was more black and white than this one. =)
Wait a minute... your profile says your from the Netherlands... So are you an American Citizen that just lives there or do you want America to stop bothering other countries or are you a citizen from other country thats extremely familiar with living in America. Or are you one of those guys that just like to stick their noses in other countries affairs... kind of like America's current government does...
yes KN ni chan is not in or from the US but we treat him like a wacky lil citizen anyway ^^
MachShot
07-22-2007, 08:34 PM
I guess I understand K_N's assumption of Republicans. When I hear that term, I always think of the radical-right. Look at us, were talking about King Nintendoid as if he wern't reading this! :P
ZippyDSMlee
07-22-2007, 08:40 PM
I guess I understand K_N's assumption of Republicans. When I hear that term, I always think of the radical-right. Look at us, were talking about King Nintendoid as if he wern't reading this! :P
Even zippy enjoys his "fame" now and then *nods sadly*
:D
but really genrealy reps are the greater evil rarely do they walk a real middle ground and when they do its mostly for show and you can tell it 10 miles away,while the Dems no matter how dim they are ,are genrealy the lesser evil.
BTW anyone hear about Gore having rare protected fish severed at his daughters birthday party?
anyone got links?
I'd like to know if it was pulled from the wild or grown by man to eat,to me there is a difference.
nightwng2000
07-22-2007, 10:33 PM
Even zippy enjoys his "fame" now and then *nods sadly*
:D
but really genrealy reps are the greater evil rarely do they walk a real middle ground and when they do its mostly for show and you can tell it 10 miles away,while the Dems no matter how dim they are ,are genrealy the lesser evil.
BTW anyone hear about Gore having rare protected fish severed at his daughters birthday party?
anyone got links?
I'd like to know if it was pulled from the wild or grown by man to eat,to me there is a difference.
Personally, I'm not big on the endangered species issue. I mean, let's face it, if a species is going to die out, it's going to die out.
Actually, I'm more of a "let's not make things worse by our own hands" as opposed to "let's manipulate our surroundings to the way we think they should be". And by "manipulate" I don't just mean let's not destory, but also let's not prevent change (such as extinction). Let's not help it along, but let's not prevent it either.
While saying "don't burn down the forests and plants that give us oxygen", let's not try to bring back plants that have been extinct for hundreds of thousands of years. And while saying "don't hunt an animal into extinction", let's also not breed them til there's an overwhelming population where they were about to go extinct.
ZippyDSMlee
07-22-2007, 10:40 PM
Personally, I'm not big on the endangered species issue. I mean, let's face it, if a species is going to die out, it's going to die out.
Actually, I'm more of a "let's not make things worse by our own hands" as opposed to "let's manipulate our surroundings to the way we think they should be". And by "manipulate" I don't just mean let's not destory, but also let's not prevent change (such as extinction). Let's not help it along, but let's not prevent it either.
While saying "don't burn down the forests and plants that give us oxygen", let's not try to bring back plants that have been extinct for hundreds of thousands of years. And while saying "don't hunt an animal into extinction", let's also not breed them til there's an overwhelming population where they were about to go extinct.
population control is good but no population to control is not :P
ZippyDSMlee
07-23-2007, 05:36 PM
I agree.. just look at humans. We don't really have any population control and we are overpopulating the planet.
thus why we need to be alil protective of the wild.
Brokenscope
07-23-2007, 05:51 PM
We don't think before we ****, now we have the end result.
ZippyDSMlee
07-25-2007, 10:31 PM
Like most candidates he has his good points and his bad points. If I used your method then when someone asked me about GW I would say "If you hate Jesus and Love terrorists he isn't for you...".
The man is a classical example of a Libertarian. He thinks that somehow the market will magically take care of things like labeling foods as being made in china so we can avoid eating mercury and florine in our toothpaste, even though recent events have shown that in spite of consumer demand, retailers say "No".
The free market has a certain romance too it, and with Reagan we all now believe that Capitalism leads to freedom and there is no Historical precidents which show that idea as flawed.
I do agree with him in many ways, but mostly in the ways any logical person should: The constitution is the highest law of our land and should be followed. The President and Vice President are the executive branch, they have to pay respect to Congress which represents the people, etc etc...
beautifully said feeman ^^
I am looking at him Edwards or oboma...I is afraid for the country ;_;
the rest are not even on my radar >>
ZippyDSMlee
08-05-2007, 10:21 PM
Say what you will about the man but he just ROCKED the republican debate on ABC in Iowa. Hopefully the polls will reflect that after it is finished. My local station cut me off but even the crowd in Iowa responded best to Ron Paul. Odd, seeing how the actual polls coming into the debate had him at 2%.
ABCNEWS.com has a poll going to see who won the debate. Ron Paul really didn't get that much time to speak but he is DOMINATING the poll. Ron Paul has over 5,000 and the closest person is Mitt Romney which has about 1,000. RP PWNZ NEO-CONZ....
The republican reich I can do without,RP dose bowl them all over,the dems are pretty much lost lil rich kids >>
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