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ZippyDSMlee
06-03-2007, 05:00 PM
The NY Times focuses on the death of the CD (creative drought, copying of store-bought music among friends named as the major problems), reinforced by news that Sam the Record Man is closing up shop (music downloads and competition from Wal-Mart cited as the problems here).


http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/1988/196/
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Now sleep in it!

Written by Xetheriel on 2007-05-30 09:25:40I agree.

The music industry made its own bed on this one. They had a choice. When Napster was at the peek of popularity, they had a choice to make, as an industry:

A: Treat Napster like a friend, take them over, and rake in the potential for ad revenue. The music downloading scene was focused on one thing, Napster. That was the source for all music downloads, so think of it as superbowl sunday every day of the year.

B: Treat Napster like a poison to the music industry, a cancer so to speak. Cut it out, destroy it, and hope it never comes back.

The music industry chose Option B... but instead of destroying it, when they cut out the cancer, they left a few little pieces behind, which spread and grew into a thousand separate networks, poisoning the whole industry. People will never forget what the music industry did to Napster. Many people still boycott buying CD's for just that reason. Had they thought about their customers instead of their wallets, they might be in a much better position now.

But alas, its always about dollars and cents now isn't it? The music industry's former customers will get the music in one way or another. People will always make music, thats guaranteed. We don't need a corporation to sell it to us.

They made their bed. Now they have to sleep in it, nails and all.
CDs are Too Much Music

Written by Chris S on 2007-05-30 10:15:00I've noted that some people have discussed a point elsewhere about the move from purchasing CDs to purchasing downloads. Invariably, when you go to online buying, you are allowed to buy just one track.

I think we would see a similar "death of CDs" even if the alternative were physical singles priced at $1 each. It's not just "CD vs download" -- it's also "buy a whole album vs buy just the two tracks I want".

Viewed this way, there is NO protection for the major labels if their business depends on selling me eight tracks I don't want for every two I do.

steelcobra
06-03-2007, 05:34 PM
I still buy CDs because I like having that hard, high-quality version. And honestly, if you buy a CD and only like one or two tracks, it's because it's a ****ty pop artist who only has two good songs and had to pad the rest out, instead of actually making a dozen good songs and putting them in an order that works.

Hell, Rammstein's last CD (Rosenrot) was almost entirely songs they couldn't fit into the previous one (Reise, Reise), and it kicked ass.

Theory?
06-03-2007, 05:36 PM
Tower Records went bankrupt. That's like, the final nail in the coffin. If the RIAA can't get it through their thick skulls that they ****ed up big time after something like that, they never will.

It's ok because now we get to watch them slowly collapse like a flan in a cupboard.

Darth_Toxic
06-03-2007, 07:08 PM
I don't even buy music online; I have a fairly large CD collection, and I prefer just getting the discs.

KN
06-03-2007, 07:09 PM
If we have to describe records to kids as "large cds", what will they describe cds as to theirs?

ZippyDSMlee
06-03-2007, 07:23 PM
Another good piece

http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2007/05/29/when-the-cd-dies/



Theory?
the RIAA is fighting for the old way of things they do not care if a few lables die in the process one can only hope labels see the RIAA as a greedy middle man selling them snake oil and stealing their money.

kurisu7885
06-03-2007, 07:24 PM
If we have to describe records to kids as "large cds", what will they describe cds as to theirs?

MP3 holders?

Theory?
06-03-2007, 07:42 PM
Another good piece

http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2007/05/29/when-the-cd-dies/



Theory?
the RIAA is fighting for the old way of things they do not care if a few lables die in the process one can only hope labels see the RIAA as a greedy middle man selling them snake oil and stealing their money.

The issue at hand is you have a lot of old men who never had to learn jack **** about technology. For years upon years they had this flawless system where all digital ever meant to them was "more money". Now digital is the enemy, and these old men want their old, defunct ways to become the norm again, and the fact of the matter is, that's not happening. It won't happen, no matter how hard they try. Now they've dug themselves so far into a trench they can't see the entrance or the exit and it is there they will starve and die while the companies who are ready to adapt and shift roll in over their bodies.

Jabrwock
06-03-2007, 07:42 PM
I've noted that some people have discussed a point elsewhere about the move from purchasing CDs to purchasing downloads. Invariably, when you go to online buying, you are allowed to buy just one track. Depending on the site, you're sometimes given the choice. IE iTunes lets you purchase tracks for $.99, or the whole album for $5-10. Depends on which publisher it's from.

I think we would see a similar "death of CDs" even if the alternative were physical singles priced at $1 each. It's not just "CD vs download" -- it's also "buy a whole album vs buy just the two tracks I want". Viewed this way, there is NO protection for the major labels if their business depends on selling me eight tracks I don't want for every two I do.Which makes me laugh whenever they try to blame MP3 & teh interweb for the trend of only supporting "hit" singles and famous bands while rarely supporting lesser known ones. FACT: this has been happening since mass-marketed music was invented. You wanted the hits to play on the radio all the time, so they'd sell more, albums were only for really good artists, or when you needed fluff to sell, and new bands were only heard if the industry thought they were going to be the next big thing.

kurisu7885
06-03-2007, 07:47 PM
Which makes me laugh whenever they try to blame MP3 & teh interweb for the trend of only supporting "hit" singles and famous bands while rarely supporting lesser known ones. FACT: this has been happening since mass-marketed music was invented. You wanted the hits to play on the radio all the time, so they'd sell more, albums were only for really good artists, or when you needed fluff to sell, and new bands were only heard if the industry thought they were going to be the next big thing.

Reminds me of when eminem was big and I wuold hear Slim Shady on the radio like 17 times a day >.<

ZippyDSMlee
06-03-2007, 08:23 PM
I don't even buy music online; I have a fairly large CD collection, and I prefer just getting the discs.

well what they are saying is since they can not sale it like they could retail is going to stop selling it

http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2007/05/29/when-the-cd-dies/

2. Big Box Retail

Best Buy and its brethren are going to kill the CD. They’re gonna shrink floor space and titles and one day they’re just going to stop selling discs completely. This will happen long before record labels desire to give up on the physical format. Retail is in tune with its customers’ whims, it has to keep moving forward to survive. Soon CDs will be evidence of the past, and these stores want to be the future. Big box retailers will kill the CD the same way the industry killed the cassette and vinyl. They’ll just stop stocking them, and the consumer will go elsewhere.

I think Aram Sinnreich’s prediction is right. After this Christmas, big box retailers will start folding their tent. Oh, maybe they’ll sell a few titles. But so do supermarket chains.

I dunno I think it will that fast ,more like slow over a 5 year period of time the big box stores will fail and the vid/music stores will cut back abit.

georox
06-05-2007, 04:03 AM
I'll be honest, I've bought 2 (Two) CDs in the past MANY years because of crap from the RIAA and the lack of quality albums. Mostly because I refuse to support anything that might be RIAA-Infested unless I have a damn good reason to.

I have bought.. the collectors edition of the Pick of Destiny soundtrack, I'm sorry but the replica pick did it. I blame the chunk of green plastic.

I also bought.. the re-release of KMFDM Symbols, I had to have it for KMFDM is the awesome.

KN
06-05-2007, 07:55 AM
This is basically... my entire cd collection.. (BYIT is a DVD, so that makes... four... albums)
http://hobobucket.com/images/cdsmall.jpg

Besides a Queen's Greatest Hits album that I just yoinked.


Poor CD. We will miss you :(

steelcobra
06-05-2007, 09:28 AM
I have 94 cds in my carrying case. Only 10 or so are burned.