I'm quitting Wow.

[Grahamr]

Yea, i am....

You see, leveling in the late 50s pre-outland is probably easy for some people, but i don't want to waste precious hours of my life on incesstant farming in order to level.

It seems as if that is all Wow has become. Farming.

Farming for xp, farming for honor, farming for epics, farming for rep, farming....


There are several non-grinding actvities that i have enjoyed..such as exploration, world pvp, roleplaying, and even a bit of mob kiting. But i feel as if these things are being cracked down on....I can barely must a dozen people to raid TM, and roleplaying servers are overrun with maladjusted greifing wastes of time.

I was a pally on Dragonmaw...had alot of fun...but between leveling so little, paying so much, and constantly having to reinstall because of strange files missing...well, i'm gonna have to GTFO.

If anyone is on Dmaw and Sees Snowbelle, a Human Female Mage, tell her that i loev her very much. :D Not likey though, since she and her NE friend Studrew vanished months ago and haven't logged on since..

Now...

Warhammer...

Huxley..

Quake war....oh, there's just so many choices :)

[Thefremen]

OK guys time to start playing WoW again.

[ZippyDSMlee]

Yea, i am....

You see, leveling in the late 50s pre-outland is probably easy for some people, but i don't want to waste precious hours of my life on incesstant farming in order to level.

It seems as if that is all Wow has become. Farming.

Farming for xp, farming for honor, farming for epics, farming for rep, farming....


There are several non-grinding actvities that i have enjoyed..such as exploration, world pvp, roleplaying, and even a bit of mob kiting. But i feel as if these things are being cracked down on....I can barely must a dozen people to raid TM, and roleplaying servers are overrun with maladjusted greifing wastes of time.

I was a pally on Dragonmaw...had alot of fun...but between leveling so little, paying so much, and constantly having to reinstall because of strange files missing...well, i'm gonna have to GTFO.

If anyone is on Dmaw and Sees Snowbelle, a Human Female Mage, tell her that i loev her very much. :D Not likey though, since she and her NE friend Studrew vanished months ago and haven't logged on since..

Now...

Warhammer...

Huxley..

Quake war....oh, there's just so many choices :)

MMOs tend to be grind whores at the most cheap fun that is not cheap...after COH going down hill ,a bit of PSO and WOW and GW and the nightmare of FF11 MMOs are pointless.

WHen you can build a unique character with unique power sets and be unique in the MMO world then give me a call.

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

I dunno, there is so MANY quests to do from 50+, that by the time you get to 58 and can walk out to Outland, you still would have probbly 3 - 4 quest logs FULL of quests. The most uncomfortable "grind zone" level-wise is 40 - 49, IMO. 50 - 58 simply has too many quests, and then 58 - 70 is a total breeze in Outland. My two level 70's haven't started a strict "grind" in Outland yet, even though they both are starting to run out of quests out there.

[KN]

I've never even made it to 40, so I have no idea.

Some day I'll probably play WoW again.

[Demontestament]

I just got back into playing WoW after a two week break, well the break was in the form of .hack//GU Vol II but still a break. Now that I am back in I feel a new ambition to level my BE pally again. Yeah grinding sucks but since I played FFXI god of all grinding so this is cake to me.

If anyone is on Dmaw and Sees Snowbelle, a Human Female Mage, tell her that i loev her very much. Not likey though, since she and her NE friend Studrew vanished months ago and haven't logged on since..

OMG Tri Edge got them! :eek:

[Picho]

I dunno, there is so MANY quests to do from 50+, that by the time you get to 58 and can walk out to Outland, you still would have probbly 3 - 4 quest logs FULL of quests. The most uncomfortable "grind zone" level-wise is 40 - 49, IMO. 50 - 58 simply has too many quests, and then 58 - 70 is a total breeze in Outland. My two level 70's haven't started a strict "grind" in Outland yet, even though they both are starting to run out of quests out there.


The problem is that most quests are exactly the same. Its go out, kill this and that, or collect these items...

From what i heard about LOTRO, they have done some work with making better quests... but the fail in many other areas.

Ginding is the biggest problem i have in MMO's, and it kills so many of them for me. In Ragnarok online, a total grindfest, a buddy and I would play two characters... thing is, the game really lets you kite enemies as bow rogues. One ability pushes you backwards seven spaces and then you fire off a skill. This was pretty awsome really, cause now the grinding didnt seem like grinding anymore but a real adventure.

What i wonder is why can we play Day of Defeat and CS on the same maps over and over again, but its still fun. Technicaly that would be grinding from a mmo stand point.

[ZippyDSMlee]

The problem is that most quests are exactly the same. Its go out, kill this and that, or collect these items...

From what i heard about LOTRO, they have done some work with making better quests... but the fail in many other areas.

Ginding is the biggest problem i have in MMO's, and it kills so many of them for me. In Ragnarok online, a total grindfest, a buddy and I would play two characters... thing is, the game really lets you kite enemies as bow rogues. One ability pushes you backwards seven spaces and then you fire off a skill. This was pretty awsome really, cause now the grinding didnt seem like grinding anymore but a real adventure.

What i wonder is why can we play Day of Defeat and CS on the same maps over and over again, but its still fun. Technicaly that would be grinding from a mmo stand point.

the difference is action you aim and have major control over the interaction with a RPG things are far far more subtle and your input is not as major.

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

The problem is that most quests are exactly the same. Its go out, kill this and that, or collect these items...

True, but that's part of the genre -- honestly, it is a facet of life in MMOs. One some people don't like. Me, it doesn't bother much. I tend to use MMOs as a way to unwind from a long day, and some mindless kill quests are relaxing.

From what i heard about LOTRO, they have done some work with making better quests... but the fail in many other areas.

The way my roommate put it in the beta, is LOTRO is WoW lite. It has some interesting little variations, but most of it is just WoW with a different appearance.

Ginding is the biggest problem i have in MMO's, and it kills so many of them for me. In Ragnarok online, a total grindfest, a buddy and I would play two characters... thing is, the game really lets you kite enemies as bow rogues. One ability pushes you backwards seven spaces and then you fire off a skill. This was pretty awsome really, cause now the grinding didnt seem like grinding anymore but a real adventure.

Ahh, but grinding for me is an activity which I can do without needing to think much about it, and I use it to relax. It doesn't bother me much at all. That said, WoW's grinding is 100x better than other MMOs. But grinding has become something that defines MMOs in the commercial market.

What i wonder is why can we play Day of Defeat and CS on the same maps over and over again, but its still fun. Technicaly that would be grinding from a mmo stand point.

I can't -- I find playing the same maps over and over again in FPS games to get... old. Same with RTS. Only so long I can play those before I have to move on. That's one of the reasons I liked Diablo so much, the maps were randomized.