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Paige
05-15-2007, 12:32 PM
I was talking to the mother-in-law a couple of weeks ago, just after I started reading GP, and the discussion came up about videogames being the scapegoat of the early 21st century. Her and my father-in-law are in their 50s and 60s, and she brought up an interesting point:

When my father-in-law was young, country western movies were the "cause of everything bad that young people do".

Around the time D&D first came out, the scapegoat was roleplaying and people were getting hurt over tabletop games.

For a brief period in that interlude, it was violent movies and music.

And now, it's video game violence.

There's always got to be a scapegoat but every single time, you've got to look at the parents. I won't say that every child is the perfect little angel, I know that most of them are little terrors who cause their parents to go grey at an early age...after all, I know I'm responsible for my mother's grey hairs and my dad had a full head of grey hair by the time I was five, I was a right little monster when I was growing up.

But it seems that with all the studies and political/legal types blaming video games for every bit of bad behaviour and childhood aggression, parents are taking up the banner instead of looking at how they raise their own children.

I've been told by both my parents and the in-laws that there's no handbook on how to be a good parent, kids don't come with manuals. And they're right on that, but parents in the last decade have seemed to use the flavour of the month reason to excuse their "perfect little angel"s bad behaviour instead of being responsible about what their children do.

Increasingly, I've heard of parents allowing their children everything from TVs to computers in their bedrooms and private living areas which the parents never bother going into, then they're shocked when something happens that they could've caught at an earlier stage and possibly prevented if they'd simply paid attention to what their child was doing online and in their gaming habits.

And I seriously can't understand why parents and politicians are blaming the rating system or the publishers for M/MA/R rated games getting into the hands of kids, when the rating system is there to help parents make an informed decision on whether a certain title is suitable for their child.

I think my tips for any parent that has a gaming child would be:


Don't give into your son/daughter's begging for a game. Discuss the game with the child, find out the title and go online. Read reviews from many sites on the game, find screenshots of the game, maybe buy it and play it first to see if you think it's suitable. If it's not, just trade it in at your local EB for cash/credit/another game which you find more suitable. Be informed!

Don't give into the sensationalist hype surrounding video games that's created by politicians and some legal types (I won't name names). Take two seconds to make your own informed opinion instead of picking up a banner or a sign.

Keep the computers and consoles out with the rest of the family. Make it a family occasion for everyone to spend quality time together or just sit in the room and keep an eye on what your kid's up to. Hell, if you're the gaming type, help 'em out with parts of a new game that your kid's having trouble with. Being involved and there for your kid to turn to would mean it becomes a healthy pasttime rather than potentially turning into something dangerous.


And don't just treat gaming this way. Any hobby can be unhealthy, even sports or art classes or what have you.

I wish that parents would stop for a second in their busy lives and take a moment to see what their kids are up to, I really do. I know when I was growing up, my mother would've seen a lot faster that roleplaying taught me a lot about how to deal with people and different situations where you need to act on instinct if she'd just taken five minutes out of her schedule to sit down and talk to me about it. That took a good five years to happen and now she realises that it helped me come out of my shell and online video games are a fun part of my socialising.

So what tips would you guys give?

Oh yeah and P.S. I tend to make fairly long winded occasionally opinionated posts because I am one of these people who wants to slap the occasional parent, politician and scientist upside the head because common sense seems to be lacking.

Hannah
05-15-2007, 12:40 PM
If I ever have kids, I'll try to get educational games for them rather than the mindless drivel (movie tie-ins, sports, etc.) that most parents buy. The edutainment genre has really gone down-hill over the years, but when I was a kid I liked to play games like Lost Secret of the Rainforest, Dr. Brain, Carmen Sandiago, Sim City, and Civilization, all of which would still be appropriate (and fun!) for a young child.

Paige
05-15-2007, 12:43 PM
Carmen Sandiego rocked. I should try and track that one down, I remember playing that on the school computer when I was in high school.

And I agree with you on that, the educational games either seem like they're aimed at five year olds who are learning to read and learning to count or they're simply pointless.

Hannah
05-15-2007, 12:47 PM
Carmen Sandiego rocked. I should try and track that one down, I remember playing that on the school computer when I was in high school.

And I agree with you on that, the educational games either seem like they're aimed at five year olds who are learning to read and learning to count or they're simply pointless.

Here ya go (http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?gameid=4351). You'll need DOSBox (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/news.php?show_news=1)to run it, but it should work fine. Isn't Abandonware fun?

Soldat_Louis
05-15-2007, 12:51 PM
My n°1 tip is to initiate younger kids to older games (let's say, Nintendo NES, Commodore 64, etc... thanks to emulators) and progressively allow them to play more recent games.

Why ? Because oldies are still excellent and fun to play. Because they teach kids that the game's interest and fun is more important than its graphics. And because they're at the same time simple enough to be playable by kids and, for some of them (from Zelda to Defender of the Crown and Civilization) rich enough to initiate kids to the best aspects of video games.

In other words, initiation to "old" games is a good way to help kids seeing the whole video game medium the way it really is.

beemoh
05-15-2007, 03:01 PM
Don't have kids.

Pelor
05-16-2007, 05:14 AM
Ahem... Number Muchers.

KN
05-16-2007, 08:43 AM
Let your kids play the Monkey Island games. Introduce them to it before they get spoiled enough to say "it looks like crap".

Garrett
05-16-2007, 11:09 AM
Let your kids play the Monkey Island games. Introduce them to it before they get spoiled enough to say "it looks like crap".

That's... that's exactly what I was going to do with my yungin'! Except it was going to be something easier, like LOOM.

Bad Wolf
05-16-2007, 01:09 PM
Carmen Sandiego rocked. I should try and track that one down, I remember playing that on the school computer when I was in high school.


OMG, Carmen Sandiego. My dad and I used to have competitions to see who could make it to Master Detective first. :D

And I have to say that you make excellent, well-thought out points. You have earned a cookie.

KN
05-16-2007, 01:58 PM
That's... that's exactly what I was going to do with my yungin'! Except it was going to be something easier, like LOOM.

Secret of Monkey Island isn't that hard. Just tell him to use the rubber chicken on everything ;p

I've always wanted to play LOOM, though.



Worms seems like a pretty fun parent/child game too.

ZippyDSMlee
05-29-2007, 02:04 PM
Secret of Monkey Island isn't that hard. Just tell him to use the rubber chicken on everything ;p

I've always wanted to play LOOM, though.



Worms seems like a pretty fun parent/child game too.

I had loom on the Turbo duo :X

man what a messed up game LOL

kurisu7885
05-29-2007, 02:08 PM
Worms seems like a pretty fun parent/child game too.

Worms. Dears gods those games were and still are great fun

MachShot
05-30-2007, 01:11 AM
Banjo-Kazzoie. Oh, that was so much fun for me as a kid. It would probably still be fun for me for nostalgic reasons but that is definitely a good game for kids.

Hannah
05-30-2007, 05:28 PM
Banjo-Kazzoie. Oh, that was so much fun for me as a kid. It would probably still be fun for me for nostalgic reasons but that is definitely a good game for kids.

I liked that game a lot. It was cute, but not excessively so, and it was a lot of fun to play. I'd consider it a good game for all ages.

ezacharyk
05-31-2007, 12:28 PM
I like your points Paige. I think that having anything other than a radio in the kids room is a bad idea.

Growing up I did get a TV and video game console in my room, but that was after I was able to buy them myself. But when I was younger and my parents bought it, it was in the living room.

The biggest thing that parents can do is to get involved in their child's hobby. Whether it is video games, model trains, stamp collecting, rock collecting, it does not matter. Being involved in your childs activities is great for bonding.

As an example, growing up I decided that game development was the career fro me. What di my mom do? she went out and bought me my first game programmig book. I was so greatful for that. I still have that book even though it is severely outdated. My mom still buys me books for game programming, when I ask and when she sees something that interests her and wants me to consider.

Thefremen
06-01-2007, 03:10 AM
I like your points Paige. I think that having anything other than a radio in the kids room is a bad idea.

Growing up I did get a TV and video game console in my room, but that was after I was able to buy them myself. But when I was younger and my parents bought it, it was in the living room.

The biggest thing that parents can do is to get involved in their child's hobby. Whether it is video games, model trains, stamp collecting, rock collecting, it does not matter. Being involved in your childs activities is great for bonding.

As an example, growing up I decided that game development was the career fro me. What di my mom do? she went out and bought me my first game programmig book. I was so greatful for that. I still have that book even though it is severely outdated. My mom still buys me books for game programming, when I ask and when she sees something that interests her and wants me to consider.

I saved up and bought a SNES when Playstation came out. Got a good deal, and Chrono Trigger is still better than any RPG on PS1 (Xenogears comes awfully close though).