Al "Race Card" Sharpton, Jessie Jackson and the Racism Brigade calling for firing

[Demontestament]

NEW YORK (AP) -- Don Imus took a seat on the other side of the microphone Monday, appearing on the Rev. Al Sharpton's radio show and enduring more criticism for his offensive comments about the Rutgers women's basketball team.

Imus issued another apology for referring to members of the team as "nappy-headed hos." Sharpton called the comments "abominable" and "racist" and repeated his demand that Imus be fired.

"Our agenda is to be funny and sometimes we go too far. And this time we went way too far," Imus told Sharpton.

Earlier Monday, on his own radio show, Imus called himself "a good person" who made a bad mistake. (Watch the backlash against Imus )

"Here's what I've learned: that you can't make fun of everybody, because some people don't deserve it," he said. "And because the climate on this program has been what it's been for 30 years doesn't mean it's going to be what it's been for the next five years or whatever."

Imus said he was "embarrassed" by the remarks. He said he had made the comments in the course of "trying to be funny," but he was not trying to excuse them.

"I'm not a bad person. I'm a good person, but I said a bad thing. But these young women deserve to know it was not said with malice," he said.

He pointed to his involvement with the Imus Ranch, a cattle farm for children with cancer and blood disorders in Ribera, New Mexico. Ten percent of the children who come to the ranch are black, he added.

"I'm not a white man who doesn't know any African-Americans," he said.

Imus said he hoped to meet the players and their parents and coaches, and he said he was grateful that he was scheduled to appear on Sharpton's show.

"It's not going to be easy, but I'm not looking for it to be easy," Imus said.

Imus made the now infamous remark during his show Wednesday.

The Rutgers team, which includes eight black women, had lost the day before in the NCAA women's championship game. Imus was speaking with producer Bernard McGuirk about the game when the exchange began on "Imus in the Morning," which is broadcast to millions of people on more than 70 stations and MSNBC.

"That's some rough girls from Rutgers," Imus said. "Man, they got tattoos ..."

"Some hardcore hos," McGuirk said.

"That's some nappy-headed hos there, I'm going to tell you that," Imus said.

Imus also apologized on the air Friday, but his mea culpa has not quieted the uproar.

The Rev. Jesse Jackson and about 50 people marched Monday outside Chicago's NBC tower to protest Imus' comments, and an NAACP official called for the broadcaster's ouster.

James E. Harris, president of the New Jersey chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, demanded Sunday that Imus "resign or be terminated immediately."

Allison Gollust, a spokeswoman for MSNBC, said the network considers Imus' comments "deplorable" and is reviewing the matter.

Karen Mateo, a spokeswoman for CBS Radio -- Imus' employer and the owner of his New York radio home, WFAN-AM -- said the company was "disappointed" in Imus' actions and characterized his comments as "completely inappropriate."



This is so ****ing retarded, once again the race card is played when it shouldn't have been. And big supprise two of the biggest racists are leading the charged.

Imus issued another apology for referring to members of the team as "nappy-headed hos." Sharpton called the comments "abominable" and "racist" and repeated his demand that Imus be fired.

Why is it racist? Oh yeah that is right, he is white thus it has to be racist. God I hate sharpton, ignorance like this needs to be silenced. I guess he hasn't heard any rap stars refer to women this way. But I guess it is ok because they are black and not racist.

The Rev. Jesse Jackson and about 50 people marched Monday outside Chicago's NBC tower to protest Imus' comments, and an NAACP official called for the broadcaster's ouster.

Not supprising, he hasn't been on tv in a while so he needs to get his face out there. Hey Jesse don't you have more money to launder or women to cheat on your wife with?

I hate it when someone says something that was an apparent **** up and people are all over them saying they are racist. He appologised, said he meant it as a joke but nooo unless he is fired and sacrficed to the "Supperior" Al Sharpton then nothing can be forgiven. He wasn't drunk, he wasn't go off on a tiraid at a night club, or just said something in bad taste. Hell why aren't they trying to get the other guy fired who called them "Hardcore Hoes" or was it the "Nappy headed" part that triggered the ignorant cries of racisim?

[Thefremen]

This is so ****ing retarded, once again the race card is played when it shouldn't have been. And big supprise two of the biggest racists are leading the charged.



Why is it racist? Oh yeah that is right, he is white thus it has to be racist. God I hate sharpton, ignorance like this needs to be silenced. I guess he hasn't heard any rap stars refer to women this way. But I guess it is ok because they are black and not racist.



Not supprising, he hasn't been on tv in a while so he needs to get his face out there. Hey Jesse don't you have more money to launder or women to cheat on your wife with?

I hate it when someone says something that was an apparent **** up and people are all over them saying they are racist. He appologised, said he meant it as a joke but nooo unless he is fired and sacrficed to the "Supperior" Al Sharpton then nothing can be forgiven. He wasn't drunk, he wasn't go off on a tiraid at a night club, or just said something in bad taste. Hell why aren't they trying to get the other guy fired who called them "Hardcore Hoes" or was it the "Nappy headed" part that triggered the ignorant cries of racisim?

Well I saw the clip and Imus might have well had said "look at dem female explecitive deleted playing basketball oh lawd i bet dey will be hungry for chicken an watermelon after the game!".

however it didn't sound like it was said with malice, it sounded more like "well what else you gonna call them boy, where i come from theyre NOTFORYOUREYES, their skin color aint black and they sure as hell aint african or american!" to me. He wears a God damn cowboy hat while in a recording studio, what do you expect?

[Garbage Pail Kid]

Imus and his crew, Charles McCord and Bernard McGuirk, are frequently accused of racism, misogyny, and homophobia. Imus referred to sports columnist Bill Rhoden as a "New York Times quota hire" and PBS anchor Gwen Ifill as a "cleaning lady".[5] (On the April 9, 2007 broadcast of Imus in the Morning, Imus denied he ever made the latter statement.) Imus has repeatedly referred to Arabs as "ragheads."[6] He has berated many female newsreaders, most recently Contessa Brewer, which caused her to leave the show. After she left the show, Imus went on a tirade, saying, “With that fat ass she’s got, she wouldn’t be one of ‘em,” (a beautiful woman). Imus said on the air, "That skank has to spend three hours with makeup in the morning." The tirade was also tied to comments that were overheard of Contessa's calling Imus “a cantankerous old fool” at a dinner in a restaurant in 2005, when she was still newsreader.

Not the first time.

[Demontestament]

Not the first time.

No it isn't the first time. But the comments he made were in no way racist. Distastefull yeah, better words lacking yes, but not racist.



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The Crown Heights Riot occurred after a car accident involving the motorcade for the Lubavitcher Rebbe killing a young boy Gavin Cato. A riot was sparked after a private Hasidic ambulance came to the scene and, on the orders of a police officer, removed the Hasidic driver from the scene. Gavin Cato and his cousin Angela were picked up soon after by a city ambulance. Caribbean-American and African-American residents of the neighborhood then rioted for four consecutive days fueled by rumors (in part driven by Sharpton), [8], [9], that the private ambulance had refused to treat Cato. [10]

Al Sharpton became the de-facto representative for the Cato family. During the funeral he referred to "diamond merchants" considered a code word for Hasidic Jews [11] [12], for shedding "the blood of innocent babies" leading marchers shouting "No Justice No Peace". Sharpton did not start the riots but his rhetoric was seen as inflammatory and unhelpful in easing the tension between the black and Jewish communities. A visiting rabbinical student from Australia by the name of Yankel Rosenbaum, 29 years old, was killed during the rioting by a mob shouting "Kill the Jew". [13]

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Just some of the things the man has said and did to which I think he has no right to call anyone else a racist. The only reason he is in this case is because the words were said by a white man.

[Garbage Pail Kid]

No it isn't the first time. But the comments he made were in no way racist. Distastefull yeah, better words lacking yes, but not racist.

So, I could call a white woman a pastey-faced little bitch, and no one would think I was a racist?

[Demontestament]

So, I could call a white woman a pastey-faced little bitch, and no one would think I was a racist?

The only people who would think you were, are some white people. But whites are not allowed to call racisim, it never flies in court and it is always countered with "If you accuse racisim than you yourself are racist". In American you can call a white person any racist word in the book and nothing will be done about it in the ways of viewing it as racisim.

[Garbage Pail Kid]

The only people who would think you were, are some white people. But whites are not allowed to call racisim, it never flies in court and it is always countered with "If you accuse racisim than you yourself are racist". In American you can call a white person and racist word in the book and nothing will be done about it in the ways of viewing it as racisim.

The way things are and the way they should be are two completely different things. A racist is a racist. Racism against whites is just as bad as racism against blacks or whoever. Al Sharpton definitely is a racist, but that doesn't mean Imus isn't as well. "Nappy headed hoes" is about as pejorative as you can get. That's before you consider all the other **** that's come out of his mouth.

EDIT: Here's the video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF9BjB7Bzr0)

[Demontestament]

The way things are and the way they should be are two completely different things. A racist is a racist. Racism against whites is just as bad as racism against blacks or whoever. Al Sharpton definitely is a racist, but that doesn't mean Imus isn't as well. "Nappy headed hoes" is about as pejorative as you can get. That's before you consider all the other **** that's come out of his mouth.

EDIT: Here's the video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF9BjB7Bzr0)

Ok I will give that with his past record I can see why some people would think his comment was racist. I am unable to watch the vid here at work, but I will when I get home so I will respond to that when I can. Though I am still going to say this wasn't meant to be racist, just an ill choice of words on his behalf.

[Sprngpilot]

The term "nappy-headed" is a reference to African decent. It was entirely a racist remark. Follow it up with "hos" and you have a rather offensive comment. I know you love to deny that racism is a factor in these stories, and many times you are right when people go overboard, but this time Sharpton and Jackson are dead on in their complaints.

[bayushisan]

They can complain, that's their right. However the thing that gets neglected in stories like this is that, regardless of how moronic his statement was, Imus has the right to say what he did. I'm not saying that there shouldn't be some degree of consequence, but considering the number of mean spirited things Imus has said over the course of his career I doubt that this incident will lead to a firing.

[Sprngpilot]

They can complain, that's their right. However the thing that gets neglected in stories like this is that, regardless of how moronic his statement was, Imus has the right to say what he did. I'm not saying that there shouldn't be some degree of consequence, but considering the number of mean spirited things Imus has said over the course of his career I doubt that this incident will lead to a firing.

I agree, he has the right to say this crap and people have a right to protest. Imus won't get fired, but he stands a good chance of being dropped by many of the networks that carry his show.

[bayushisan]

I doubt that very seriously. As long as his show brings in high ratings and revenue its unlikely that very many stations will drop him at all.

[Sprngpilot]

I doubt that very seriously. As long as his show brings in high ratings and revenue its unlikely that very many stations will drop him at all.

Oh, really? (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070410/us_nm/usa_race_imus_dc_5)

[Thefremen]

Oh, really? (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070410/us_nm/usa_race_imus_dc_5)

Even if that wasn't the case we could hold up Howard Stern as an example, before he left there were tons of stations that wouldn't carry him, some for indecency and some for his liberal viewpoints. Oh wait though, Liberals never have to pay for anything they say, right?

But srsly, if Kramer is racist for saying "SOMETHING" Imus is racist for saying "nappy headed hoes". Even so it would be offensive if he said "sluts with hair similar to a brillo pad" and people would have every right to protest.

[bayushisan]

No one is saying that there's no right to protest. I'm just saying that, despite the stupidity of what he said, Imus does have the right to say what he does. I don't like him personally so I make the choice to not listen. If people really wanted to affect things like this then that would be my reccomendation.

[Sprngpilot]

No one is saying that there's no right to protest. I'm just saying that, despite the stupidity of what he said, Imus does have the right to say what he does. I don't like him personally so I make the choice to not listen. If people really wanted to affect things like this then that would be my reccomendation.

I don't recall anyone saying he didn't have the right to say what he said. You're defending an issue that no one is challenging.

[Thefremen]

I don't recall anyone saying he didn't have the right to say what he said. You're defending an issue that no one is challenging.

It's a pre-emptive strike.

I'm going to take this moment that without hearing anything about him before, I found his very appearance offensive, and his voice displeasing.

But the appearance does bother me, where I was raised you take your hat off indoors.

[kurisu7885]

All I see this boiling down to is Sharpton and Jackson saying "Freedom of speech is fine, just not your freedom of speech." Or "Immorality is what I say is right, and immorality is what I say is wrong, and screw everyone else."

[ZippyDSMlee]

Sharpton and Jackson are trolls starting flames over someones stupid post,the post would normally be scoffed at but things would have moved on if the flamers did not come in.


All this comes down to is that people of color can never be rasisct thus all the crap they say and do is something to be proud of yet when a white guy dose it his to be drawn and quartered.

the race card, flogging logic since the rebirth of political correctness.

[weatherlight]

Next time I get called a "cracker", I am going to make a big stink demand that the person get fired from their job, picket his place of business demanding something be done, and then threaten to sue. Wait that only works for "blacks"

note: "blacks" is used because not all people with a dark skill color are from Africa, and I don't want to misrepresent them.

[ZippyDSMlee]

Next time I get called a "cracker", I am going to make a big stink demand that the person get fired from their job, picket his place of business demanding something be done, and then threaten to sue. Wait that only works for "blacks"

note: "blacks" is used because not all people with a dark skill color are from Africa, and I don't want to misrepresent them.

the PC nazis might come you for you,all darkskin people hail from Africa anyone who says otherwise is shot first :X

[Tollwutig]

Imus has a very narrow audience who actually listens to them. Most of them are in the 50-80 Middle Class white businessmen. So really Bayu is correct it's highly unlikely he'll be dropped as his audience is so narrow. It's why he has gotten away with saying the things he has said in the past.

[ZippyDSMlee]

Imus has a very narrow audience who actually listens to them. Most of them are in the 50-80 Middle Class white businessmen. So really Bayu is correct it's highly unlikely he'll be dropped as his audience is so narrow. It's why he has gotten away with saying the things he has said in the past.

firing would be silly...ever listen to the nation wide morning programs on the radio? its ahell of alot worse....

[weatherlight]

firing would be silly...ever listen to the nation wide morning programs on the radio? its ahell of alot worse....
Listen to the talk radio stations between 12am and 6am, that is some messed up ****. Last time I listened to it, the guy was talking about aliens, coming to get us.

[John]

Ok, first of all...

What the **** is a 'nappy-headed hos'?

[steelcobra]

It's two slang terms in one phrase:

Nappy-headed: Refers to the coarse, tightly curling hair of those with an african descent.

Ho: urban term for a slut.

[John]

It's two slang terms in one phrase:

Nappy-headed: Refers to the coarse, tightly curling hair of those with an african descent.

Ho: urban term for a slut.

Oh, Ho's. I knew that. I just thought it was...well...hos...

...

Ok, this was racist.

[Thefremen]

Listen to the talk radio stations between 12am and 6am, that is some messed up ****. Last time I listened to it, the guy was talking about aliens, coming to get us.

I think you may be thinking of Prey, since they used an actual radio personality to record those segments where you can hear Earth radio.

[weatherlight]

I think you may be thinking of Prey, since they used an actual radio personality to record those segments where you can hear Earth radio.
No he was taking callers

[Pelor]

note: "blacks" is used because not all people with a dark skill color are from Africa, and I don't want to misrepresent them.

To be fair: What do you call Bruce Lee? Yellows?

[Sprngpilot]

Imus has a very narrow audience who actually listens to them. Most of them are in the 50-80 Middle Class white businessmen. So really Bayu is correct it's highly unlikely he'll be dropped as his audience is so narrow. It's why he has gotten away with saying the things he has said in the past.

Like I already pointed out, he has been dropped already. While technically he's just suspended MSNBC made it clear they are seriously considering ditching him altogether.

All I see this boiling down to is Sharpton and Jackson saying "Freedom of speech is fine, just not your freedom of speech." Or "Immorality is what I say is right, and immorality is what I say is wrong, and screw everyone else."

No. They are saying they don't like this guy, that he made an offensive racist comment, and they think he should be taken off the air. Also, it is simply not up for debate if what he said was offensive to the general public. Even Imus acknowledged that and the Rutgers team has made it clear they are not taking it lightly.

You're so quick to defend Imus' freedoms, why can't Jackson and Sharpton exercise theirs as well?

All this comes down to is that people of color can never be racist, thus all the crap they say and do is something to be proud of; yet when a white guy does it he's to be drawn and quartered.

The race card: flogging logic since the rebirth of political correctness.

(Spelling and grammar edited for clarity)

At what point do you acknowledge something as racist? How can you deny that "nappy-headed hos" isn't a racially charged insult? Just like Demontestament you have a clear history of disliking PC crusades, and that's fine by me. This time, however, you're missing the actual racism in your knee-jerk attempt to disparage Jackson and Sharpton.

note: "blacks" is used because not all people with a dark skill color are from Africa, and I don't want to misrepresent them.To be fair: What do you call Bruce Lee? Yellows?

Bruce Lee is Chinese, or Chinese-American. It's a completely different case because he can trace his ancestry back to the exact country from which his family orginated. The same can't be said for many black men and women in the US.

[Pelor]

Bruce Lee is Chinese, or Chinese-American. It's a completely different case because he can trace his ancestry back to the exact country from which his family orginated. The same can't be said for many black men and women in the US.
You seriously have to be ****ting me... Okay, an orphan born in the States.

I'm not asking if the term "yellow" is accurate. I'm asking if it's offensive.

[kurisu7885]

No. They are saying they don't like this guy, that he made an offensive racist comment, and they think he should be taken off the air. Also, it is simply not up for debate if what he said was offensive to the general public. Even Imus acknowledged that and the Rutgers team has made it clear they are not taking it lightly.

You're so quick to defend Imus' freedoms, why can't Jackson and Sharpton exercise theirs as well?




I'm not defending eithe,r but those two have gotten up in arms about alot less, hence I don't like them, but you are right ,they have a right to say whatever they like to whomever they like, and Imus was in bad taste in saying that.

[Thefremen]

You seriously have to be ****ting me... Okay, an orphan born in the States.

I'm not asking if the term "yellow" is accurate. I'm asking if it's offensive.

Lets ask Rosie O'Donnel..

Rosie: Ching chong ding dong ching chong ding dong thats how yellows talk lol. i wants me sum watermelon an malt liqour and sum fried chickens thats what nigras say lol.

right. so yellow is offensive i guess, but mostly if its said by Rosie O'Donnel. It's not accurate though, so its rather irrelevant, the term "NOTFORYOUREYES" is much better.

[ZippyDSMlee]

Listen to the talk radio stations between 12am and 6am, that is some messed up ****. Last time I listened to it, the guy was talking about aliens, coming to get us.

Cost to cost.....*shudders* its rare when I enjoy their odd covos sometimes its not so bad like boardband threw the power lines only trouble is it kill 90% of radio transmission.

[Pelor]

Lets ask Rosie O'Donnel..

Rosie: Ching chong ding dong ching chong ding dong thats how yellows talk lol. i wants me sum watermelon an malt liqour and sum fried chickens thats what nigras say lol.

right. so yellow is offensive i guess, but mostly if its said by Rosie O'Donnel. It's not accurate though, so its rather irrelevant, the term "chinks" is much better.
I can't figure out if you're pissed at me or Rosie.

I'm don't personally think "black" is an offensive term any more than I think "white" is. I'm just pointing out that there's a flaw in Bayu's logic.

Now we can get into a discussion about what terms are and aren't offensive :D

[Thefremen]

I can't figure out if you're pissed at me or Rosie.

I'm don't personally think "black" is an offensive term any more than I think "white" is. I'm just pointing out that there's a flaw in Bayu's logic.

Now we can get into a discussion about what terms are and aren't offensive :D


Ah. I'm just saying, Yellow is offensive and not accurate.

[nightwng2000]

Ah. I'm just saying, Yellow is offensive and not accurate.

Personally, I never saw yellowish tinges to asian skin tones. But then, I am legally blind. Still, whem people make comments about yellow skin, I always thought they were making it up or making some sort of racist comment that I didn't understand.

[Thefremen]

Personally, I never saw yellowish tinges to asian skin tones. But then, I am legally blind. Still, whem people make comments about yellow skin, I always thought they were making it up or making some sort of racist comment that I didn't understand.

There's a lot of asians who are whiter than "white" people. I wonder if the usage started in the California gold rush, like some of the chinese immigrants carried deseases that yellowed the skin...

[Garbage Pail Kid]

Personally, I never saw yellowish tinges to asian skin tones. But then, I am legally blind. Still, whem people make comments about yellow skin, I always thought they were making it up or making some sort of racist comment that I didn't understand.

Well, white people aren't really white and black people aren't really black either.

[Picho]

You know through, because of this the womens team is now very well known by now.

[Thefremen]

You know through, because of this the womens team is now very well known by now.

Seems unfair because the random hecklers of Kramer aren't really widely known.

[ZippyDSMlee]

Seems unfair because the random hecklers of Kramer aren't really widely known.

Thats because everyone knows it was a poor forced joke that failed,when you gotta grasp at straws to be funny its over dude.

[Thefremen]

Thats because everyone knows it was a poor forced joke that failed,when you gotta grasp at straws to be funny its over dude.


Oh yeah, so I'm grasping at straws huh?

mmmm, lets seeeeeeeeee....new material.....

SELFCENSORINGPLZDONTBANPLZ

[ZippyDSMlee]

Oh yeah, so I'm grasping at straws huh?

mmmm, lets seeeeeeeeee....new material.....

What do you get when you put together a Hebrew, a Shiite and a Sunni?


You get the **** out of there!
*noogies* No I think he was,when a person dosent make a living off their humor than can wing it to the max and only get scoffed at,when a professional dose it its time for tomatoes and air soft pistols!
THE REVALUATION HAS BEGUN!!!

[Thefremen]

*noogies* No I think he was,when a person dosent make a living off their humor than can wing it to the max and only get scoffed at,when a professional dose it its time for tomatoes and air soft pistols!
THE REVALUATION HAS BEGUN!!!

I tell ya what I should try to make a living off my humor, already I have an advantage because in this forum I don't get no respect!

[Picho]

No respect, Noo respect nuknuk nuk.

[ZippyDSMlee]

I tell ya what I should try to make a living off my humor, already I have an advantage because in this forum I don't get no respect!

neither do I,however I am "understood" so I am happy
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/zippydsmlee/zippymew.jpg

[Thefremen]

neither do I,however I am "understood" so I am happy
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/zippydsmlee/zippymew.jpg

What forum are you talking about? We can barely comprehend you much less understand you.

[ZippyDSMlee]

What forum are you talking about? We can barely comprehend you much less understand you.

same diffrance :D

[weatherlight]

To be fair: What do you call Bruce Lee? Yellows?
One bad ass -----. Asian or oriental if I had to choose a looks describer. But normally I would call him Bruce Lee

[Picho]

You dont call Bruce lee anything.

He calls you.

Then you die.

[weatherlight]

You seriously have to be ****ting me... Okay, an orphan born in the States.

I'm not asking if the term "yellow" is accurate. I'm asking if it's offensive.
calling them yellow's would be inaccurate. If I ever was a yellow man I would be shocked.

[ZippyDSMlee]

Shaft theme with Bruce as shaft we need one for Bruce lee and Bruce campbell :X

[Picho]

We need to make a movie with the most badassed people

Van Disel
Chuck Noris
Al Gore
Bruce Camble
Bruce Lee
Jackie Chan
and lastly Mr. Rodgers.

[BetaSword]

We need to make a movie with the most badassed people

Van Disel
Chuck Noris
Al Gore
Bruce Camble
Bruce Lee DEAD
Jackie Chan
and lastly Mr. Rodgers. DEAD

Well there's your first couple problems. And if I wasn't dead tired, I'd probably try and be witty and think up other things to put in red after every name. But I'm dead tired. So no.

[Picho]

Its easy to make a movie with already croaked people in it, without having to uncroak them. You just simply use the footage of them in thier previous shows.

Like Mr. Rodgers would be the Kungfu master mind, spewing out philsophical stuff every time his is on camera. Bruce lee would be the hero of past times in which who ever is chosen to be the current Hero strives to be like as flash backs of bruce allow him to be in the show.

[weatherlight]

Its easy to make a movie with already croaked people in it, without having to uncroak them. You just simply use the footage of them in thier previous shows.

Like Mr. Rodgers would be the Kungfu master mind, spewing out philsophical stuff every time his is on camera. Bruce lee would be the hero of past times in which who ever is chosen to be the current Hero strives to be like as flash backs of bruce allow him to be in the show.
Just like they did with Dave.

[Picho]

who was dave?

[Pelor]

Well there's your first couple problems. And if I wasn't dead tired, I'd probably try and be witty and think up other things to put in red after every name. But I'm dead tired. So no.

Bruce Lee did not die. He spontaneously divided into Jackie Chan and Jet Lee. That much badassness just can't fit into one body.

[weatherlight]

who was dave?
I tried to find an article, but this happened about three years ago. Wendy's released an unseen commercial with former owner and spokesperson Dave Thomas about a year after his death. A lady then sued Wendy's for false advertising, and misleading the customer, because she was now left with the impression that he was "still alive". It got thrown out after a while, but I thought it was a rather sad suit.

Dave was one of my Hero's

[John]

I tried to find an article, but this happened about three years ago. Wendy's released an unseen commercial with former owner and spokesperson Dave Thomas about a year after his death. A lady then sued Wendy's for false advertising, and misleading the customer, because she was now left with the impression that he was "still alive". It got thrown out after a while, but I thought it was a rather sad suit.

Dave was one of my Hero's

...WTF? That is so ****ed up. Wendy's should've counter-sued the ass of her!

[Sprngpilot]

And now it looks like Imus has been dropped completely by MSNBC, and the article also mentions numerous advertisers jumping ship. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070412/ts_nm/usa_race_imus_dc_24) It doesn't look so good for him, but I can't muster up too much sympathy.

[Thefremen]

And now it looks like Imus has been dropped completely by MSNBC, and the article also mentions numerous advertisers jumping ship. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070412/ts_nm/usa_race_imus_dc_24) It doesn't look so good for him, but I can't muster up too much sympathy.

The sad thing is now people might start thinking MSNBC has a liberal bias.....WAITAMINUTE!

But really, in broadcasting many people have been cut for much less, it's up to the networks if they want to deal with a Howard Stern, Rush Limbaugh or NOTFORYOUREYES.

Maybe Fox should pick up Imus? They could team him up with Hal Turner!

[penarestel]

"None of us has the right to use the public airways in the way that Mr. Imus has done," Sharpton said. "CBS must now follow suit."

Yeah, why don't you take your own ****ing medicine Sharpton?

[Grahamr]

The sad thing is now people might start thinking MSNBC has a liberal bias.....WAITAMINUTE!

But really, in broadcasting many people have been cut for much less, it's up to the networks if they want to deal with a Howard Stern, Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter.

Maybe Fox should pick up Imus? They could team him up with Hal Turner!

But then Anon would crush/kill/maim/rape/destroy/own/murder/pwn/decimate/oblitzerate Imus...............

[Demontestament]

And now it looks like Imus has been dropped completely by MSNBC, and the article also mentions numerous advertisers jumping ship. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070412/ts_nm/usa_race_imus_dc_24) It doesn't look so good for him, but I can't muster up too much sympathy.

Ten to one he hops on XM.

[Picho]

Bruce Lee did not die. He spontaneously divided into Jackie Chan and Jet Lee. That much badassness just can't fit into one body.

Speeking of which there is a movie coming out called the J&J project. In which Jet lee and Jackie Chan are going to make a sayuki movie. I belive Jackie is playing the part of Sanzo and Jet is the monkey king.

[Demontestament]

Oh this is ****ing insane. Now the basketball team is going on Oprah and talk to her about how hurt they are after the nasty old man said those mean words. Jesus mother****ing christ, what is next a made of TV movie about this ****? Ok he got his show cancled, more than likely the company will fold to the NAACP's protests and threats and fire him. What is done is done, but some people are satisifed until he is hanged for what he said and his life is ruined. Ten to one someone is going to file a retarded lawsuit against him for millions of dollars for pain and suffering at his words. They are ****ing words! They can't hurt ****!

[ZippyDSMlee]

Oh this is ****ing insane. Now the basketball team is going on Oprah and talk to her about how hurt they are after the nasty old man said those mean words. Jesus mother****ing christ, what is next a made of TV movie about this ****? Ok he got his show cancled, more than likely the company will fold to the NAACP's protests and threats and fire him. What is done is done, but some people are satisifed until he is hanged for what he said and his life is ruined. Ten to one someone is going to file a retarded lawsuit against him for millions of dollars for pain and suffering at his words. They are ****ing words! They can't hurt ****!

welcome to the 21th and a half century, words hurt and you can sue and even WIN!

0-o

[Picho]

Sticks and stones may break my bones
But names are ment for suing

[Thefremen]

Oh this is ****ing insane. Now the basketball team is going on Oprah and talk to her about how hurt they are after the nasty old man said those mean words. Jesus mother****ing christ, what is next a made of TV movie about this ****? Ok he got his show cancled, more than likely the company will fold to the NAACP's protests and threats and fire him. What is done is done, but some people are satisifed until he is hanged for what he said and his life is ruined. Ten to one someone is going to file a retarded lawsuit against him for millions of dollars for pain and suffering at his words. They are ****ing words! They can't hurt ****!

I hate Oprah.

She had a psychiatrist on talking about how you can't persue happiness you have to realize it comes from within etc etc. Well, maybe that's true to Oprah and others where it's like "go cry emo kid" but there are people out there like Chris Gardner (Will Smith's character in Persuit of Happyness) who are miserable because of the ****-ton of problems they have related to being poor as hell and struggling to make it through like.

[Demontestament]

Well they fired him (Big supprise) and the all know supreme being know as Sharpton had this to say.

Sharpton said the airways should not be used to "call children hard-core hos, nappy-headed hos. ... None of us have the right to use the public airways to express our bigotry."

If that is the case Al then kindly remove yourself from the airwaves. Yeah the comments were tasteless and uncalled for but you cannot call for on bigot to be silenced when you yourself give into bigotry all the time.

I can still see him going to XM now. Can anyone tell me if the guy who called the women "Jiggaboos" had any reprecussions against them. To me that is more "Racially Charged"* than Nappy headed hoes.

Note* I have the term "Racially Charged" in quotes because right now that is the media's favorite phrase. Three stories being reported on right now are classified as Racially charged. I am starting to hate that phrase, what am I saying. I already hate it, all it does is give the words of a person more of an evil meaning to them than should be looked at.

Edit* I was watching a report on this last night and the reporter was inerviewing a Hip Hop radio host who never heard of Imus before this(just like 90% of america) but thought he should be fired because of the comment. When the reporter asked him about the rap artists who use phrases like that and other phrases that demean women and why it is ok for them to say it the morons response was "Rap artists are rapping about times in the hood, they are laying out a story in the form of beats and language the black community can identify with" that made me "Huh"? Ok from what he just said it totally killed his reasoning for why Imus should be fired. So if a rapper refers to a woman as a Nappy Headed hoe than it is ok becaue they identify with that type of language but if a white undead radio host says it, then it becomes racist? It made my head hurt.

[kurisu7885]

I hate Oprah.

She had a psychiatrist on talking about how you can't persue happiness you have to realize it comes from within etc etc. Well, maybe that's true to Oprah and others where it's like "go cry emo kid" but there are people out there like Christ Gardner (Will Smith's character in Persuit of Happyness) who are miserable because of the ****-ton of problems they have related to being poor as hell and struggling to make it through like.

She can try telling that to us who live in trailers that are literally falling apart, where the management of a trailer park is an ass who tries to charge as much as he can legally get away with, and where the job market sucks big time.

[steelcobra]

And Snoop Dogg's ignorant, hypocritical opinion:
It’s a completely different scenario. [Rappers] are not talking about no collegiate basketball girls who have made it to the next level in education and sports. We’re talking about ho’s that’s in the ‘hood that ain’t doing ****, that’s trying to get a nigga for his money. These are two separate things. First of all, we ain’t no old-ass white men that sit up on MSNBC going hard on black girls. We are rappers that have these songs coming from our minds and our souls that are relevant to what we feel. I will not let them muthatha****as say we in the same league as him.

[ZippyDSMlee]

And Snoop Dogg's ignorant, hypocritical opinion:

the trouble is talking sht is talking sht >>
(please dun smite me for rollign past the word filter :eek: )

Hmm. Ok. Though shall not be smited for making thy point.

anyway sure Imu said something stupid but tis on the level of what comes out of black pop culture 24 f'in 7.......yet when someone dares to question that they get vilified...

[Grahamr]

Well they fired him (Big supprise) and the all know supreme being know as Sharpton had this to say.



If that is the case Al then kindly remove yourself from the airwaves. Yeah the comments were tasteless and uncalled for but you cannot call for on bigot to be silenced when you yourself give into bigotry all the time.

I can still see him going to XM now. Can anyone tell me if the guy who called the women "Jiggaboos" had any reprecussions against them. To me that is more "Racially Charged"* than Nappy headed hoes.

Note* I have the term "Racially Charged" in quotes because right now that is the media's favorite phrase. Three stories being reported on right now are classified as Racially charged. I am starting to hate that phrase, what am I saying. I already hate it, all it does is give the words of a person more of an evil meaning to them than should be looked at.

Edit* I was watching a report on this last night and the reporter was inerviewing a Hip Hop radio host who never heard of Imus before this(just like 90% of america) but thought he should be fired because of the comment. When the reporter asked him about the rap artists who use phrases like that and other phrases that demean women and why it is ok for them to say it the morons response was "Rap artists are rapping about times in the hood, they are laying out a story in the form of beats and language the black community can identify with" that made me "Huh"? Ok from what he just said it totally killed his reasoning for why Imus should be fired. So if a rapper refers to a woman as a Nappy Headed hoe than it is ok becaue they identify with that type of language but if a white undead radio host says it, then it becomes racist? It made my head hurt.

White undead radio host.....rofl

A rapper can say the word "Nigga" five thousand times and nothing will come of it.

[John]

Ok, this is so stupid.

They can complain, that's their right. However the thing that gets neglected in stories like this is that, regardless of how moronic his statement was, Imus has the right to say what he did. I'm not saying that there shouldn't be some degree of consequence, but considering the number of mean spirited things Imus has said over the course of his career I doubt that this incident will lead to a firing.

I agree with Bayu here. He does have the right to say what he wants. And now he has to live up to what he said and take responsibility for it. And if CBS and MSNBC decided to fire him, fine, because that's their decision to do so.

And it is not an infringment on his freedom of speech. He is still allowed to say whatever ****ed up things he wants. But his former bosses at CBS and MSNBC don't want those things representing them.

And, quite frankly, I am not in favour of banning such derogatory words. If a talk radio host wants to call anyone a n----- or f----- or whatever, fine, they can. But they should be ready to take any backlash because of it. Even it if means losing their job.

[nightwng2000]

Ok, this is so stupid.



I agree with Bayu here. He does have the right to say what he wants. And now he has to live up to what he said and take responsibility for it. And if CBS and MSNBC decided to fire him, fine, because that's their decision to do so.

And it is not an infringment on his freedom of speech. He is still allowed to say whatever ****ed up things he wants. But his former bosses at CBS and MSNBC don't want those things representing them.

And, quite frankly, I am not in favour of banning such derogatory words. If a talk radio host wants to call anyone a n----- or f----- or whatever, fine, they can. But they should be ready to take any backlash because of it. Even it if means losing their job.

I don't agree with banning either. Whether it was said in some form of jest (in the eyes of the speaker) or seriously.

Even if it's the bigoted tripe that Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Rush Limbaugh, or Fred Phelps swill out on the air, it should be allowed. Driving bigots into the dark allows thier ignorance to fester and spread unchallenged. If played out in the open, even if they don't take calls, their bigotry can be challenged in the public forum.

But it's the choice of the operators and bosses to make the final decision as to how to handle their employees. I may not like the decision, but it's not "my house" to be dictating policy. It's not Sharpton's "house" either. Or Jackson's. All the sponsors can make their own personal decision as to whether to financially support a show or not. That's their right. They can't, or shouldn't, be able to dictate policy, but they can make the choice of whether to support a show or not.

It's also my right to say I'm not going to listen to so-n-so's show because I don't like they things they say. It shouldn't be my right to dictate to the station whether what that person says is appropriate for SOMEONE ELSE to hear or not.

[John]

I don't agree with banning either. Whether it was said in some form of jest (in the eyes of the speaker) or seriously.

Even if it's the bigoted tripe that Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Rush Limbaugh, or Fred Phelps swill out on the air, it should be allowed. Driving bigots into the dark allows thier ignorance to fester and spread unchallenged. If played out in the open, even if they don't take calls, their bigotry can be challenged in the public forum.

I like this idea, not opposed to it, but it's very hard to change a bigots' mind. Hence why we call them bigots in the first place.

But it's the choice of the operators and bosses to make the final decision as to how to handle their employees. I may not like the decision, but it's not "my house" to be dictating policy. It's not Sharpton's "house" either. Or Jackson's. All the sponsors can make their own personal decision as to whether to financially support a show or not. That's their right. They can't, or shouldn't, be able to dictate policy, but they can make the choice of whether to support a show or not.

It's also my right to say I'm not going to listen to so-n-so's show because I don't like they things they say. It shouldn't be my right to dictate to the station whether what that person says is appropriate for SOMEONE ELSE to hear or not.

My point exactly. It's like how everyone wanted OJ Simpson's book and movie deal to be thrown out. They eventually did it due to public pressure. They didn't have to, but they did, because it was their choice, not the publics.

[Kincyr]

know what might be fun? Someone should tell these guys about christianparty.net
the site owners are like Fred Phelps, except they hate blacks.

[Yukimura]

While admittedly, Imus said some seriously bad stuff over the years, his conduct isn't what bothers me. What bothers me is that Sharpton and Jackson suddenly became moral authorities. Lets face it, if a black person could be nomitated racist of the year, those 2 would have won a dozen times by now.

Even worse, is that this proves a point i've made in the past. You'll now see sharpton and jacksons actions leading to other attacks against other people on air. Not cause it's racist, but simply cause it's not "politicaly correct." I'm willing to bet that three people will soon fall under threat due to whats happened with imus. And since I know he'll probably answer me about it, yes kn, I know what your gonna say, and No, I don't care.

Rush LImbaugh, Sean hannity, and Micheal savage will soon be the next in the cross hairs for the left. Not for anything racist, though in some cases one could make that argument, but simply for not being a Mainstream media robot like CNN and the others. Don imus had a history of racial and derogatory actions, but that doesn't mean his firing was right. On the other hand, The three names I mentioned are practicly Public enemy number one in the eyes of many on the left. Already, websites exsist whose sole purpose is to attack them. Namely 2.

Media matters.
New hounds.

So, with this call for more control and decency on the air, i wonder, will cnn, msnbc, and abc be scrutinized, or only Talk radio and Fox, as seems to be the way it normally goes.

Don't belive me, don't think this might lead to a whole sale assualt on altrenative media, look up something called the Fairness Doctrune.

Yeah, Fairness my ass. More like "Silence our oppenents doctrune"

So while imus is gone, I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. Soon enough, this will lead to the worst assualt on free speech in history in my opinion.

Just wait and see.

[ZippyDSMlee]

While admittedly, Imus said some seriously bad stuff over the years, his conduct isn't what bothers me. What bothers me is that Sharpton and Jackson suddenly became moral authorities. Lets face it, if a black person could be nomitated racist of the year, those 2 would have won a dozen times by now.

Even worse, is that this proves a point i've made in the past. You'll now see sharpton and jacksons actions leading to other attacks against other people on air. Not cause it's racist, but simply cause it's not "politicaly correct." I'm willing to bet that three people will soon fall under threat due to whats happened with imus. And since I know he'll probably answer me about it, yes kn, I know what your gonna say, and No, I don't care.

Rush LImbaugh, Sean hannity, and Micheal savage will soon be the next in the cross hairs for the left. Not for anything racist, though in some cases one could make that argument, but simply for not being a Mainstream media robot like CNN and the others. Don imus had a history of racial and derogatory actions, but that doesn't mean his firing was right. On the other hand, The three names I mentioned are practicly Public enemy number one in the eyes of many on the left. Already, websites exsist whose sole purpose is to attack them. Namely 2.

Media matters.
New hounds.

So, with this call for more control and decency on the air, i wonder, will cnn, msnbc, and abc be scrutinized, or only Talk radio and Fox, as seems to be the way it normally goes.

Don't belive me, don't think this might lead to a whole sale assualt on altrenative media, look up something called the Fairness Doctrune.

Yeah, Fairness my ass. More like "Silence our oppenents doctrune"

So while imus is gone, I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. Soon enough, this will lead to the worst assualt on free speech in history in my opinion.

Just wait and see.

I dunno this is more PCness at work its unfair and stupid,I dunno is nessy and grow big enough to bamboozle all of media to think that if they cant talk "nice" they should not talk at all, again whos definition of nice are they going to use a 4th graders?


I wonder if Imus has enough of niche they will take him back?

BTW I wouldnt place the blame soley on the websites that log all the slights they say agisnt others its the to edger to please news conglomerates that are to afraid to back up "free" speech hell with digital devices becoming a staple everywhere we no longer need the FCC,so what is the FCC there for if not to censor broadcast media?

[Yukimura]

I dunno this is more PCness at work its unfair and stupid,I dunno is nessy and grow big enough to bamboozle all of media to think that if they cant talk "nice" they should not talk at all, again whos definition of nice are they going to use a 4th graders?


I wonder if Imus has enough of niche they will take him back?

BTW I wouldnt place the blame soley on the websites that log all the slights they say agisnt others its the to edger to please news conglomerates that are to afraid to back up "free" speech hell with digital devices becoming a staple everywhere we no longer need the FCC,so what is the FCC there for if not to censor broadcast media?

It's a common tactic used by the leftist elite over the years. It's good to note that it's not true liberals doing this, as they are among the most ardent supporters of free speech. Modern "Liberals" have long since abadoned there beliefs. It's actually something they would love to hide from the world.

I find it sad.

The great irony of it, is that many modern day so called "Conservitives" actually have little to do with many of the conservitive ideals that made the party in the begining. I thnk of my self as a moderate conservitive, but I'm also the most ardent beliver in free speech. I'm also a beliver in the idea that there should some consquence for a persons actions, but the idea that the government should have totall control of the people, the media, and so forth is one of the thigns I disagree with, which is a highly liberal ideal, yet is not prevalent in the modern day Left. Liberals today, as KN and I have discussed in the past have little in common with the principals there party was founded on.

Thats kinda pathetic if you ask me.

[ZippyDSMlee]

It's a common tactic used by the leftist elite over the years. It's good to note that it's not true liberals doing this, as they are among the most ardent supporters of free speech. Modern "Liberals" have long since abadoned there beliefs. It's actually something they would love to hide from the world.

I find it sad.

The great irony of it, is that many modern day so called "Conservitives" actually have little to do with many of the conservitive ideals that made the party in the begining. I thnk of my self as a moderate conservitive, but I'm also the most ardent beliver in free speech. I'm also a beliver in the idea that there should some consquence for a persons actions, but the idea that the government should have totall control of the people, the media, and so forth is one of the thigns I disagree with, which is a highly liberal ideal, yet is not prevalent in the modern day Left. Liberals today, as KN and I have discussed in the past have little in common with the principals there party was founded on.

Thats kinda pathetic if you ask me.

much like modern "Conservatives" don't know how to fight a war or balance a budget everything is liturarly becoming black and white no grays or colors just 2 extremes and both offer a gray sad world to live in.

[Yukimura]

Indeed.

I'm to fuzzy bwained some times but even I can see how much this sucks.

This sucks bad!

[ZippyDSMlee]

Indeed.

I'm to fuzzy bwained some times but even I can see how much this sucks.

This sucks bad!


I need more fuz to shut them out!

[Yukimura]

I need more fuz to shut them out!

All bow to the power of the FUZZY BWAINED!!!!

::goes back to playing Marvel ultimate alliance::

[ZippyDSMlee]

All bow to the power of the FUZZY BWAINED!!!!

::goes back to playing Marvel ultimate alliance::

playing GOW with inf double jump and inf magic(shame no max magic codes can be found,even on Code breaker 9 and a ARmax)

[Pelor]

Yukimura, Imus lost his job because advertisers stopped their sponsorship.

What could you do about it? The sponsors shouldn't be forced to pay someone they don't want to be associated with.

[KN]

Yukimura, Imus lost his job because advertisers stopped their sponsorship.

What could you do about it? The sponsors shouldn't be forced to pay someone they don't want to be associated with.

Like the Ann Coulter thing a while back.

[Yukimura]

Like the Ann Coulter thing a while back.

But my point is that extreeme elements in our own culture use this type of thing as a way to force people they don't like from the air. It's been seen in other cases 2. If imus was smart, he'd turn this on sharpton and Jackson and sue them for violating his civil rights and his first amendment rights.

But since there black it won't ever happen. Thats what I think anyway.

[Pelor]

...and you would solve this how? Make it against the law to get angry at racism?

If Imus's popularity is so much bigger than this controversy, then he should be able to find another job.

If imus was smart, he'd turn this on sharpton and Jackson and sue them for violating his civil rights and his first amendment rights.
Why? They didn't fire him.

[Yukimura]

...and you would solve this how? Make it against the law to get angry at racism?

If Imus's popularity is so much bigger than this controversy, then he should be able to find another job.


Why? They didn't fire him.

They are responsible, directly or indirectly for whats happened. Trust me, Sharpton and Jackson have used racist and hateful speech for years. If that was enough to be fired, they'd be long gone. Now, it was there use of the MSM to demonize him that led to the firing. In the court, you can be held accountable. Just as the PTC about there WWF lawsuit troubles.

Regardless, my point was not about imus, but about the fact that we let small groups of people chose whats right and wrong for the rest of us. The Rutgers team accepted Imus's apology, but because jackson and shapton wouldn't, he got fired.

Is that right?

I don't think so!:mad:

[Pelor]

Did Jackson and Sharpton lie? Did they slander Imus? Do they have telepathic control over what the sponsors do? Go through the newsstories and point to the part when they violated Imus's civil rights.

[nightwng2000]

Did Jackson and Sharpton lie? Did they slander Imus? Do they have telepathic control over what the sponsors do? Go through the newsstories and point to the part when they violated Imus's civil rights.

They just believe their form of racial bigotry should be protected under the First Amendment while their "opposites" should be silenced and banned.

In other words, their not only bigots, they're hypocrites.

[kurisu7885]

They just believe their form of racial bigotry should be protected under the First Amendment while their "opposites" should be silenced and banned.

In other words, their not only bigots, they're hypocrites.In other words the N word should be banned but they should be able to abuse the word cracker all they like, in that ballpark?

[ZippyDSMlee]

In other words the N word should be banned but they should be able to abuse the word cracker all they like, in that ballpark?

more like they want anyone with a lither shade of brown be tossed in jail for using it.

[nightwng2000]

In other words the N word should be banned but they should be able to abuse the word cracker all they like, in that ballpark?

Mostly. But more along the lines of believing:

Group "X" are racists, whether they've done or said anything along racial lines or not.
All other groups can't be racist because the only racists are Group "X" and therefore, anything that might APPEAR racist being done or said by any other group other than Group "X" isn't really racist, so long as it's commited against Group "X".
Therefore, anything Group "X" says or does, being a racist group, is not protected speech and can be banned. Anything said by any other group is protected speech and is actually justifiable because Group "X" is to blame and deserves what they get.

Really, how far off the mark am I?