PS3 moives,new regioning rules.

[ZippyDSMlee]

Look new regioning scheme in place to further lock out Eu importing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc

So Movies will work like this

USA will play jp and usa moives
JP will play jp and usa moives
EU will play eu moives

Now the question is will they flip the eu switch and make eu games playable only for the eu market?


At least this is from all the information I have gathered got any links post them,nothing wrong with me being wrong :P


regioning hurts them more than it helps,they could release a game in limited quantiles world wide sale it for 20% mark up,better than pressing a game out for one region and it dose not sale.

[steelcobra]

Different video outputs. You can't play an NTSC region 0 dvd in a PAL dvd player anyways.

[Cecil475]

Look new regioning scheme in place to further lock out Eu importing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc

So Movies will work like this

USA will play jp and usa moives
JP will play jp and usa moives
EU will play eu moives

Now the question is will they flip the eu switch and make eu games playable only for the eu market?


At least this is from all the information I have gathered got any links post them,nothing wrong with me being wrong :P


regioning hurts them more than it helps,they could release a game in limited quantiles world wide sale it for 20% mark up,better than pressing a game out for one region and it dose not sale.

I'm not sure how it helps.

- Warren Lewis

[ZippyDSMlee]

Different video outputs. You can't play an NTSC region 0 dvd in a PAL dvd player anyways.

and the games magicly can because ntsc games will play,all they had to do was build it to ntsc spec and add a stupid frimware flag or software flag to bang the output down.

their chargeing more the system anyway so why not go all out for the consumer? eh? eh? eehhhh?

[steelcobra]

No, with Blu-Ray, they just put all the PAL output protocols on the disc as well, and it switches between the rendering modes depending on the box's region. You can do this with games because they rebuild the image completely in every frame. Movies are produced with a single format and can't be changed over without full conversion.

[ZippyDSMlee]

No, with Blu-Ray, they just put all the PAL output protocols on the disc as well, and it switches between the rendering modes depending on the box's region. You can do this with games because they rebuild the image completely in every frame. Movies are produced with a single format and can't be changed over without full conversion.


If they have not started with every BR/HD movie or at least 70% then pal/ntsc discs are a pipe dream.

[ZippyDSMlee]

I'm not sure how it helps.

- Warren Lewis


From my understanding of it it helps them regoinize profits instead of saleing on a world wide level playing field and competing with themselfs threw exporters/importers..

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

regioning hurts them more than it helps,they could release a game in limited quantiles world wide sale it for 20% mark up,better than pressing a game out for one region and it dose not sale.

Unfortunately, multinational businesses tend to look at this problem from a different standpoint. Sony has resellers in Europe, and in the US & Japan. If everything was made "region-free" and playable anywhere, the concern is that more people in Europe would possibly buy the movies from the US, and there would be a loss in sales in Europe. As an artificial form of protection for the businesses in Europe to continue, they segregate the region, forcing those who live in that region, to buy from that region.

[ZippyDSMlee]

SO people would just buy a multi/us region player/console and import giving up on local altogether? wouldn't it be cheaper to adjust prices globaly and not fool with regioning at all?

I wonder how fast they will make a de regioning mod for the PS3,I wonder how lunix is going to effect the modifiability of the console.

[Ace_of_Sevens]

Different video outputs. You can't play an NTSC region 0 dvd in a PAL dvd player anyways.

That onyl applies to DVD it's irrelevant here. Bluray movies are stored in HD, which is neither NTSC nor PAL. They can be output in some HD format or converted to NTSC or PAL on the fly, but the format is not more NTSC/PAL than computer software.

[ZippyDSMlee]

That onyl applies to DVD it's irrelevant here. Bluray movies are stored in HD, which is neither NTSC nor PAL. They can be output in some HD format or converted to NTSC or PAL on the fly, but the format is not more NTSC/PAL than computer software.

Forgotten you have,Blue ray being protected,from regions.

HDVD not just yet,but wishing to use the new regional code standard they are,sading it is..

heres proof (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc#Region_codes),not just the voices in my head,it is true HDVD has not have anything set in stone they will go regional its the best way to control losses...

[Ace_of_Sevens]

Forgotten you have,Blue ray being protected,from regions.

HDVD not just yet,but wishing to use the new regional code standard they are,sading it is..

heres proof (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc#Region_codes),not just the voices in my head,it is true HDVD has not have anything set in stone they will go regional its the best way to control losses...

I'm quite aware of that. Regions and video standards have nothing at all to do with each other. That is, you can't play an American BluRay disc in Europe for the most part, but it has nothing to do with NTSC and PAL and BluRay does not use either of those formats. A player can convert a hidef movie to NTSC or PAL, but that is just done at playback. Region coding (using different regions) was already present on DVD. You couldn't swap between the US and Japan because they were different regions. You could swap between Europe and Jpan because while they were the same region, they used different video standards. Now, discs are all encoded using the same video standard, but we still have region coding.

[ZippyDSMlee]

I'm quite aware of that. Regions and video standards have nothing at all to do with each other. That is, you can't play an American BluRay disc in Europe for the most part, but it has nothing to do with NTSC and PAL and BluRay does not use either of those formats. A player can convert a hidef movie to NTSC or PAL, but that is just done at playback. Region coding (using different regions) was already present on DVD. You couldn't swap between the US and Japan because they were different regions. You could swap between Europe and Jpan because while they were the same region, they used different video standards. Now, discs are all encoded using the same video standard, but we still have region coding.

and more region less players.