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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=408490&in_page_id=1811&in_page_id=1811&expand=true#StartComments
The title of the article says enough. But the real kicker is what the woman suggests what kids should do:
Referring to the recent rash of deadly assaults at schools, Mallory said books that promote evil - as she claims the Potter ones do - help foster the kind of culture where school shootings happen.
That would not happen if students instead read the Bible, Mallory said.
Ok ok ok...I've read, and am a sort of fan, of the Harry Potter series. The only people that have killed were the bad guys. Not once have Harry or Ron or Hermione killed anyone. At all.
But her suggestion to read the Bible instead?
I'm just going to dump this link to a picture and be off...
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y294/RRJohn/BibleWarning.jpg
Hank the Tank
10-05-2006, 12:37 AM
GOD ****ING DAMMIT...
OK, look, there is never ANY mention of the devil as the source of magic in Harry Potter's world. In fact IIRC, there is no mention of its source at all. BUT one can assume because of the extremely diverse characters who can use magic and its omnipresence that it is a natural part of that particular world, not being good or evil. It could probably be compared to air.
**** like this really pisses me off.
THANKS FOR CONTINUING TO GIVE YOUR FELLOW CHRISTIANS (like me) A BAD REPUTATION!
penarestel
10-05-2006, 12:44 AM
THANKS FOR CONTINUING TO GIVE YOUR FELLOW CHRISTIANS (like me) A BAD REPUTATION!
Couldn't have said it better myself.
However, you have to remember that these sort of people are brainwashed fundies.
They don't count.
Hank the Tank
10-05-2006, 12:48 AM
Couldn't have said it better myself.
However, you have to remember that these sort of people are brainwashed fundies.
They don't count.
Doesn't matter, people will remeber them as more as a Christians than a fundie.
One of those really loud and annoying minorities of a group that ruins it for everyone.
Ace_ofspade
10-05-2006, 12:48 AM
._.
That is by and far, the stupidest thing I have ever heard. It is so stupid, it physically pains me. Thank you dear John, for robbing all existing hope for this country from me.
penarestel
10-05-2006, 12:50 AM
Doesn't matter, people will remeber them as more as a Christians than a fundie.
One of those really loud and annoying minorities of a group that ruins it for everyone.
This is why I vote regressive. (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=regressive)
THANKS FOR CONTINUING TO GIVE YOUR FELLOW CHRISTIANS (like me) A BAD REPUTATION!
Change what you call yourself. People like them ruin it for open-minded, non-radical Christians like yourself. They've ruined the image of the word 'Christian', so I suggest calling yourself something that won't be identified with the fundies of the world.
A rose by any other name is still a rose...
What is with these people? There are legitimate reasons not to like Harry Potter; you being a Christian fundamentalist stereotype is not one of them.
EDIT: by you I meant the person in the news story, not anyone in this thread...at least not yet...
Grahamr
10-05-2006, 01:29 AM
Geez,these thread makes me want to team up with the Vampires and Fight the vatican.
CURSED FUNDIES!!!!!!!!!!!!
ZippyDSMlee
10-05-2006, 04:50 AM
well they didn't like pokemon because it was filled with story's of good vrs evil and be good to others and respect your elders,potter doesn't stand a chance.....
jdmdsp911
10-05-2006, 04:51 AM
Between idiots like this, JBT, Phelps, Jerry Falwell, Farrakhan, and Pat Robinson, it is no wonder I don't want to belong to any religion anymore. I feel soiled just mentioning their names here. Also nice reference Grahamr :D
Silver_Derstin
10-05-2006, 09:21 AM
I have my gripes with Harry Potter (Mary Sue Fanfiction published FTW?), but saying it promotes evil WICCA (why is wicca evil, really? I haven't heard of any wiccan burning down churches or anything, as opposed to good Christians doing the same things in the *****...) and that this would lead to an increase in school shootings is preposterous. Next they'll say that reading the technical manuals in physics and chemistry will turn you to evil atheist because it actually doesn't support the Divine Creation at 100%.
godofyouall
10-05-2006, 09:22 AM
Sorry to all my fellow GP'ers that are of the Christian faith. But this just had to be said.
According to the Bible, God is directly responsible for many mass-murders, rapes, pillage, plunder, slavery, child abuse and killing, not to mention the killing of unborn children.
Just a few choice examples:
Deuteronomy 20:10-14 (approve of rape)
As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
Leviticus 20:13 NAB (Kill homosexuals)
If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives
2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB (kill non-believers)
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.
I would rather my kids read Harry Potter any day of the week.
And thus concludes my Bible family values lesson for today
Silver_Derstin
10-05-2006, 09:28 AM
Godofyouall, HUSH! Do not say the truth, for the truth is well known to have a liberal bias.
Anyways, "reading the Bible" is more of a concept then an idea, really. It doesn't involve any reading at all, actually. You're just supposed to digest everything that someone tells you about it and read secondary criticism about it (you know all those books about the Bible in the religion section of the bookstore? Yeah, those books.)
ZippyDSMlee
10-05-2006, 09:32 AM
Sorry to all my fellow GP'ers that are of the Christian faith. But this just had to be said.
According to the Bible, God is directly responsible for many mass-murders, rapes, pillage, plunder, slavery, child abuse and killing, not to mention the killing of unborn children.
Just a few choice examples:
Deuteronomy 20:10-14 (approve of rape)
As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
Leviticus 20:13 NAB (Kill homosexuals)
If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives
2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB (kill non-believers)
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.
I would rather my kids read Harry Potter any day of the week.
And thus concludes my Bible family values lesson for today
2 Chronicles 15:12-13,this has to be a add in by the church to "spread" the word......and the word was CHURCH PWNS UUUU
2 Chronicles 15:12-13dosent it say the same for mixing meat and milk/chease or least other nonsensical things?
another reason for the church to promote anti gayness was during a time long long ago they had to deal with alot of gay pagans how else are they to get rid of them they have to BAN them of coarse...OMG they have tried to ban every other thing they don't like for eons 0-o
Deuteronomy 20:10-14 at one time wemen were things to be plundered and men have never let them forget it...oy vay....
Let's not forget that bunnies are UNCLEAN
nightwng2000
10-05-2006, 01:28 PM
Because of this kind of thing and the other article about protesting the Amish funeral, consider my argument about keeping religion out of the hands of children replay without actually writing it out again.
I confused 2 people before about my proposed legislation, making them think I was going to really do it. These two stories you've posted, John, just add more evidence as to why such a bill as I suggested would probably pass much easier than the video game legislations.
Demontestament
10-05-2006, 01:47 PM
Ok until a gunman screams "Avada Kedavra!" before shooting the place up I don't buy it.
Beacon
10-05-2006, 02:26 PM
Several points to make:
1) The last pope once proclaimed that the Harry Potter books upheld "good Christian morals".
2) Is kids pretending to cast spells at each other any worse than kids pretending to fire guns at each other? If anything, I'd argue it would be better, because if some kid snaps and comes to school with a branch of holly intending to go on a killing spree, I think the fatalities will be rather low.
3) Harry, Ron, Hermione, and the entire school in general show Christian practices, but no real Wiccan ones. They celebrate Christmas and Easter, but Halloween is just a bit of a party, and I don't recall any situations where a solstice or equinox is at all important.
4) As Hank pointed out, there's no reference to devil-worshipping in the books. Magic is a natural gift bestowed upon certain humans. So, if the books are attempting to convert children to witchcraft, it's more likely going to be the modern Wiccan practices, that speak about harmony and general goodwill. So, basically, this woman is suggesting the schools practice religious descrimination. By that logic, we should ban all the Jewish books, too.
Darth_Toxic
10-07-2006, 06:25 PM
"That would not happen if students instead read the Bible, Mallory said."
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/Toxic_Offender/Firenoob.jpg
Grahamr
10-07-2006, 07:04 PM
nice reference Grahamr :D
Thank you,Jdmdsp911
kurisu7885
10-07-2006, 08:16 PM
I woudl rather read Harry Potter than the bible anyway. I see god as more like Voldemort, a tyrant. There, I said it, I see got as a tyranical dictator along the lines of Saddam. My reason? Basically if you don't do exactly as he says, accordign to certain people, yer ****ed, which is my biggest beaf with any religion, they try to scare you into serving some god that may or may not exist, you surrender your life and instead of living you live in fear of what may happen if you step off the beaten path.
sorry if I offended any religious peopel here, just statign what I think. Better to have ideas as you can change an idea, a belief is trickier.
ZippyDSMlee
10-07-2006, 08:26 PM
I woudl rather read Harry Potter than the bible anyway. I see god as more like Voldemort, a tyrant. There, I said it, I see got as a tyranical dictator along the lines of Saddam. My reason? Basically if you don't do exactly as he says, accordign to certain people, yer ****ed, which is my biggest beaf with any religion, they try to scare you into serving some god that may or may not exist, you surrender your life and instead of living you live in fear of what may happen if you step off the beaten path.
sorry if I offended any religious peopel here, just statign what I think. Better to have ideas as you can change an idea, a belief is trickier.
I am a unrefined christen common sense tells me god made science as well and it is not evil,that birth control is population control and therefore a good thing,that judging others is a waste of time deeds speak more than petty appearance or what they pork at night,that women are scary and easily equal to men,that faith is like sexuality don't go there (talk about it in front of strangers,would you talk about h0w you like 69's or butsecks in public) unless you are wiling to be judged.
"That would not happen if students instead read the Bible, Mallory said."
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/Toxic_Offender/Firenoob.jpg
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
*saves image*
Hank the Tank
10-08-2006, 12:36 AM
I woudl rather read Harry Potter than the bible anyway. I see god as more like Voldemort, a tyrant. There, I said it, I see got as a tyranical dictator along the lines of Saddam. My reason? Basically if you don't do exactly as he says, accordign to certain people, yer ****ed, which is my biggest beaf with any religion, they try to scare you into serving some god that may or may not exist, you surrender your life and instead of living you live in fear of what may happen if you step off the beaten path.
sorry if I offended any religious peopel here, just statign what I think. Better to have ideas as you can change an idea, a belief is trickier.
Eh, I believe that God judges people on their deeds and morality more than their religion.
kurisu7885
10-08-2006, 12:38 AM
Eh, I believe that God judges people on their deeds and morality more than their religion.
Sorry, I was speaking more to the fundies than anyone o nthis site who deson't spread hate and fear mongering. didn't mean to offend.
Hank the Tank
10-08-2006, 01:15 AM
Sorry, I was speaking more to the fundies than anyone o nthis site who deson't spread hate and fear mongering. didn't mean to offend.
Don't worry, you didn't.
Eh, I believe that God judges people on their deeds and morality more than their religion.
...then what they read or watch...
Grahamr
10-08-2006, 01:55 PM
My aunt is a christian. she says that in the original bible,there's no hell.
so just don't listen to all this"Obey us or go to hell" crap.
kurisu7885
10-08-2006, 01:57 PM
...then what they read or watch...and their sexual orientation
My aunt is a christian. she says that in the original bible,there's no hell.
so just don't listen to all this"Obey us or go to hell" crap.
Your aunt is correct. The 'original bible', or the oldest known version of it we have, refers to Hades in the New Testament and some random Jewish word in the Old.
Both, if I recall, simply mean 'afterlife'.
It also has other hilarious excerpts, such as 'Jesus walked on the water' being written in a sense that can very easily mean 'Jesus walked BY the water'. And of course 'A son of god', rather than 'THE son of god'.
illspirit
10-08-2006, 03:08 PM
Bwahahahahaha! Wow. Just wow.
The children, she said, try to imitate Harry Potter and cast spells on classmates.
And that has what to do with shooting each other how exactly? Is there a jacketed hollow point spell in the Potter books or something? :p
kurisu7885
10-08-2006, 03:17 PM
Bwahahahahaha! Wow. Just wow.
And that has what to do with shooting each other how exactly? Is there a jacketed hollow point spell in the Potter books or something? :p
If there is, I haven't read about it.
I'd prefer kids palying Harry Potter, or[I bet she'd REALLY hate this] Dungeons and Dragons, somethign more social.
I want to go up to her with a stick and yell out LUMOS!
Then she'll run in fear at my new flashlight.
Grahamr
10-08-2006, 05:14 PM
Your aunt is correct. The 'original bible', or the oldest known version of it we have, refers to Hades in the New Testament and some random Jewish word in the Old.
Both, if I recall, simply mean 'afterlife'.
It also has other hilarious excerpts, such as 'Jesus walked on the water' being written in a sense that can very easily mean 'Jesus walked BY the water'. And of course 'A son of god', rather than 'THE son of god'.
How did you find out all this? Wow,King nintendoid,your smart!
:D
((No,really. i would have never thought you had so much knowledge about religion.))
EDIT: on the topic of the fundie chick....Friggin muggle...
Demontestament
10-10-2006, 11:50 AM
I want to go up to her with a stick and yell out LUMOS!
Then she'll run in fear at my new flashlight.
If you want to look like a total nerd, the next time the power goes out, shout that before turning on your Maglight.
If you want to look like a total nerd, the next time the power goes out, shout that before turning on your Maglight.
*raises hand*
Guilty
Demontestament
10-10-2006, 12:39 PM
*raises hand*
Guilty
lol ok so I am not alone....good to know.
Thefremen
10-10-2006, 02:04 PM
*raises hand*
Guilty
Wow, y'all have Maglights in the Neatherlands?
They're made in California ya know.
....Friggin muggle...
Now see! That's exactly the sort of thing I detest about Harry Potter. Why is calling non-magic users muggles considered okay in the books? How is it different from calling gay people fags?
Now see! That's exactly the sort of thing I detest about Harry Potter. Why is calling non-magic users muggles considered okay in the books? How is it different from calling gay people fags?
Because putting people in small boxes is fun!
But, really, Muggle just refers to non-magic users, whereas Wizard/Witch refers to magic users.
Beacon
10-10-2006, 03:21 PM
Now see! That's exactly the sort of thing I detest about Harry Potter. Why is calling non-magic users muggles considered okay in the books? How is it different from calling gay people fags?
Well, theoretically, calling someone a muggle isn't really any different than, say, calling someone an Indian. It's a denotation of a different people, not to mention a radically different society. Now, one can easily wield it like an insult.
Silver_Derstin
10-10-2006, 03:42 PM
Now see! That's exactly the sort of thing I detest about Harry Potter. Why is calling non-magic users muggles considered okay in the books? How is it different from calling gay people fags?
Also notice this very important trend in the Harry Potter books: Muggles are all evil/stupid/uncaring. Even if it's not "an insult" (something a lot of people have been trying to defend in the lit theory classes), the cultural context in which the story is framed MAKES it an insult.
ZippyDSMlee
10-10-2006, 04:03 PM
Also notice this very important trend in the Harry Potter books: Muggles are all evil/stupid/uncaring. Even if it's not "an insult" (something a lot of people have been trying to defend in the lit theory classes), the cultural context in which the story is framed MAKES it an insult.
But its a insult to stupid evil people :P
we can still insult stupid evil people right? I mean as long as they are not part of the forums? 0_o
Tollwutig
10-10-2006, 04:15 PM
But its a insult to stupid evil people :P
we can still insult stupid evil people right? I mean as long as they are not part of the forums? 0_o
You can insult stupid people just don't make an out and out attack on them. Insult thier evil stupidity without resulting to personal insults.:D
ZippyDSMlee
10-10-2006, 04:17 PM
You can insult stupid people just don't make an out and out attack on them. Insult thier evil stupidity without resulting to personal insults.:D
I need at least 60 more IQ points to be that witty :P
Tollwutig
10-10-2006, 04:22 PM
I need at least 60 more IQ points to be that witty :P
Nah ya don't you just have to focus on the argument not the person.
Silver_Derstin
10-10-2006, 04:33 PM
But its a insult to stupid evil people :P
The thing is, the people it insults is pretty much EVERYONE, actually, since I believe that most people on these boards do not practice the Harry Potter-style sorcery.
ZippyDSMlee
10-10-2006, 04:35 PM
The thing is, the people it insults is pretty much EVERYONE, actually, since I believe that most people on these boards do not practice the Harry Potter-style sorcery.
Who cares what the evil stupid people think they are evil :P
Also notice this very important trend in the Harry Potter books: Muggles are all evil/stupid/uncaring. Even if it's not "an insult" (something a lot of people have been trying to defend in the lit theory classes), the cultural context in which the story is framed MAKES it an insult.
WRONG! Hermione Granger parents are both Muggles, but not once throughout the six books have anyone other then Slytherins made degarding remarks about them.
And Slytherin are like the KKK of Wizards.
Silver_Derstin
10-10-2006, 05:44 PM
WRONG! Hermione Granger parents are both Muggles, but not once throughout the six books have anyone other then Slytherins made degarding remarks about them.
True... There are the parents to the ultimate Mary Sue character of all time, defeating even most self-insert characters out there.
Dagrak
10-10-2006, 06:19 PM
And Slytherin are like the KKK of Wizards.
Technically Slytherin are nothing more then a representation of upper class British families. The KKK of Harry Potter would be the Death Eaters, Voldemorts favoured minions as it's they who go around, leaving a terrifying sign and hunting people down just for being non-wizards/pure bloods.
Not that I read all the books as soon as they are released...
ZippyDSMlee
10-10-2006, 06:23 PM
Bear with my train of thought here for I am about to wreck it
Way back when the N word was a normal word used to describe a persons race even the black folk used the word SO muggles can be like it just minus the heavy helping of demeaning the N word has....altho you stop and look at it the older definition of the N word was lazy ,dumb and black or something of the like I dont really recall many if any N word being used against a white person but I could be wrong,muggle is a "normal description" and from the right magic snob it can be a insult like the N word was however even I understand that the muggle word is 2 or 4 levels below the N word,its interesting to see the N and etch words be turned on thier head and sued as a form of empowerment nowadays tho altho I still dislike the word and my skin cralws when my 90ish year old aunt and grandmother say "shes rather pretty looking for a N**** " ggaaa its there comment of the day directed at Rice on CNN,old pll and kids have thos odd comments of the day that make anyhtign else they say seem normal..
0-o
ZippyDSMlee
10-10-2006, 06:26 PM
Technically Slytherin are nothing more then a representation of upper class British families. The KKK of Harry Potter would be the Death Eaters, Voldemorts favoured minions as it's they who go around, leaving a terrifying sign and hunting people down just for being non-wizards/pure bloods.
Not that I read all the books as soon as they are released...
Slytherin are snobs in every scene of the word they are selfish yet not nesserliy evil.
a requirement for the KKK is to be evil or to heard well...you know mob rule and all.
beemoh
10-10-2006, 06:33 PM
mod rule
Freudian slip?
'mudblood' does really sound like something the KKK would say, for some reason =/
ZippyDSMlee
10-10-2006, 06:35 PM
Freudian slip?
LOL
Mabye I was not thinking about it at the time tho *L*
Technically Slytherin are nothing more then a representation of upper class British families. The KKK of Harry Potter would be the Death Eaters, Voldemorts favoured minions as it's they who go around, leaving a terrifying sign and hunting people down just for being non-wizards/pure bloods.
Not that I read all the books as soon as they are released...
True, though, Slytherin are more like breeding grounds for Death Eaters.
Sorta like Small Town folk and the KKK. Small Town folk aren't the KKK, though a lot of KKK come from Small Towns.
Harry Potter causes school shootings? well this is a new twist....
Hey guys, remind me that books that write about evil guys getting their butts kicked and values like bravery and freindship promote violence. why haven't I EVER seen that link before?
Harry Potter causes school shootings? well this is a new twist....
Hey guys, remind me that books that write about evil guys getting their butts kicked and values like bravery and freindship promote violence. why haven't I EVER seen that link before?
Barney the Dinosaur promotes friendship, and he sure as hell causes violence and aggression
Grahamr
10-11-2006, 08:00 PM
Guys,isn't it obvious? when she said,"there were going to be more school shootings" she wasn't saying that the kids were going to be the people doing it..........she has the Whole christian army from left behind:eternal forces at her back. tis' a declaration of war!!!
and another note: y'know how she said that if they didn't read violent evil books they wouldn't do this stuff? and that if they read the bible they wouldn't be commited to violence? tell me, what do:
KKK
Neo Nazis
Westboro baptists (okay they're not violent but they're still assholes)
the psychos who beat up gay people and blow up abortion clinics
allllll have in common?
SlyFox
10-11-2006, 11:14 PM
Guys,isn't it obvious? when she said,"there were going to be more school shootings" she wasn't saying that the kids were going to be the people doing it..........she has the Whole christian army from left behind:eternal forces at her back. tis' a declaration of war!!!
Yeah... with a mission to save everybody... "right between the eyes."
ZippyDSMlee
10-11-2006, 11:17 PM
Yeah... with a mission to save everybody... "right between the eyes."
Mmmmmm
Saving everyone.....one bullet at a time...
Yeah... with a mission to save everybody... "right between the eyes."
They've taken some notes out of the Holy Text of Gatling God, I see...
...Neo Nazis...
Err...they don't usually read the Bible to get their beliefs...there're enough crazy-ass, Neo-Nazi books out there to fill any wannabe Gobbles' home library.
Besides God Is With Us (found on every Nazi soldier's uniform somewhere), they weren't too strict on it.
Besides of course the state-supported Passion plays, which were to enforce the involvement of the jews in the death of ze Christ. That's about all the christianity I can find in Nazism.
Thefremen
10-12-2006, 03:26 PM
Besides God Is With Us (found on every Nazi soldier's uniform somewhere), they weren't too strict on it.
Besides of course the state-supported Passion plays, which were to enforce the involvement of the jews in the death of ze Christ. That's about all the christianity I can find in Nazism.
Neo Nazis old chum, ie: skinheads. In other words, people who inhabit red states.
bayushisan
10-17-2006, 01:21 AM
It kinda figures that upon my return to these hallowed halls that something like this would be the place where I put my second post.
Why not simply read both? It stands to reason that reading Harry Potter (much as I dislike the series myself) for entertainment would be alright, as reading the Bible for enlightenment would be. Personally I find the Harry Potter series to be so much badly written fan fiction, but then that's just my opinion.
The implication that the Harry Potter series promotes or will encourage school shootings is laughable. Now if they were talking about the Turner Diaries, then there'd be a point.
Let me point out, yet again, that simply because someone claims to be a Christian it doesn't mean that they actually are. Anyone can make a claim, its one actions that are the proof of the matter.
ZippyDSMlee
10-17-2006, 01:24 AM
bayushisan
^^
Its good to see you alive and well ^^
bayushisan
10-17-2006, 01:25 AM
Many thanks. Its good to be back.
kurisu7885
03-22-2008, 11:32 PM
As for that, lady's comment about wicca, according to my knowledge wiccan magic isn't inherently evil, it can be used for evil purposes, but it's merely a tool, and those of the wicca faith frown heavily upon harming others
And welcome back Bayu. Good to see you're well.
As for that, lady's comment about wicca, according to my knowledge wiccan magic isn't inherently evil, it can be used for evil purposes, but it's merely a tool, and those of the wicca faith frown heavily upon harming others
And welcome back Bayu. Good to see you're well.
...2006? :3
Mark of Cain
03-23-2008, 12:12 AM
...2006? :3
There was a spamer who was reviving long dead threads in order to advertise.
Hannah
03-23-2008, 12:35 AM
...2006? :3
Old thread is old.
hans moleman
03-23-2008, 12:51 AM
LOL @ that article.
So persecution of jews for the last thousand years or more didn't happen because of a religious group inspired by the bible.
So that book never inspired people to torture heretics, or pillage the entirety of South American culture?
Or devalue women?
Hannah
03-23-2008, 12:58 AM
LOL @ that article.
So persecution of jews for the last thousand years or more didn't happen because of a religious group inspired by the bible.
So that book never inspired people to torture heretics, or pillage the entirety of South American culture?
Or devalue women?
Her website is truly awesome:
http://www.hisvoicetoday.org/index.htm
Ace_ofspade
03-23-2008, 01:12 AM
I was just reading FSTDT earlier today.
http://forums.narutofan.com/member.php?u=96793
^ Huge lulz-cow.
Thefremen
03-23-2008, 02:38 AM
School shootings never happened before video games or Harry Potter. Also, Terrorism never existed before video games either, especially not in post-war Germany or occupied france.
Also, teenagers never had sex before Elvis, not even when the average life span was 30 years.
Too bad Anonymous is now a goody-goody group of social benefactors because that site would be pretty easy to troll.
School shootings never happened before video games or Harry Potter.
Well duh, you can't very well shoot someone with a knife/sword/axe/club/spear/YOUR BEAR HANDS!!!.
And it's pretty hard to go to school when you have to work all day at the farm or else you won't have enough grain to pay off the local lord and your father will beat you to within an inch of your life (just like what the "good" book says!) and you and your family will starve, but no worries, you're just as likely to catch dysintary or pnumonia or something and die along with three of your nine brothers and sisters. :p
Damn those "everything was better in the olden days...that I wasen't even alive to see, and can't be bothered to read a history text about" wankers piss me off.
Hannah
03-23-2008, 03:43 AM
Well duh, you can't very well shoot someone with a knife/sword/axe/club/spear/YOUR BEAR HANDS!!!.
And it's pretty hard to go to school when you have to work all day at the farm or else you won't have enough grain to pay off the local lord and your father will beat you to within an inch of your life (just like what the "good" book says!) and you and your family will starve, but no worries, you're just as likely to catch dysintary or pnumonia or something and die along with three of your nine brothers and sisters. :p
Damn those "everything was better in the olden days...that I wasen't even alive to see, and can't be bothered to read a history text about" wankers piss me off.
Obviously not everything was better in the olden days, but some things may have been. It's just as silly to pretend that all progress (technological or otherwise) is 100% good.
I don't know about you, but I sure like my vaccinations, my (at least nominally) representative government, and running water with only a modicum of chemicals and bacteria.
MUTANT SPUD
03-23-2008, 04:41 AM
Well duh, you can't very well shoot someone with a knife/sword/axe/club/spear/YOUR BEAR HANDS!!!.
And it's pretty hard to go to school when you have to work all day at the farm or else you won't have enough grain to pay off the local lord and your father will beat you to within an inch of your life (just like what the "good" book says!) and you and your family will starve, but no worries, you're just as likely to catch dysintary or pnumonia or something and die along with three of your nine brothers and sisters. :p
Damn those "everything was better in the olden days...that I wasen't even alive to see, and can't be bothered to read a history text about" wankers piss me off. Hehe..very good...and very true. Dont you love the way these moral crusaders quote each other as experts, its like..."he can recite the bible from memory so he must be an expert on child psychology"(or indeed on everything).
I think they just wear people down, batter them with their point of view until they give in and accept it as gospel...politicians included.
kurisu7885
03-23-2008, 08:59 AM
Reason I can see them liking the olden days so much is that now we have that pesky freedom of religion, choice, and that book burnings are a thing of the past.
Thefremen
03-24-2008, 12:22 AM
Obviously not everything was better in the olden days, but some things may have been. It's just as silly to pretend that all progress (technological or otherwise) is 100% good.
I would like to disagree with you on that point. Hive worlds and Chainswords will render this entire discussion moot.
hans moleman
03-24-2008, 12:40 AM
Looked at her website, getting a born 500 years too late vibe from her... judging by the picture of a sword, she would have been at home during the inquisition.
Hannah
03-24-2008, 12:44 AM
Looked at her website, getting a born 500 years too late vibe from her... judging by the picture of a sword, she would have been at home during the inquisition.
I just love how she believes in witchcraft more than any Harry Potter fan that I've ever met ;)
hans moleman
03-24-2008, 12:53 AM
Am I the only one who gets a feeling that she'd strap on a bomb belt like some other angry extremists we all see on the news?
Hannah
03-24-2008, 01:00 AM
Am I the only one who gets a feeling that she'd strap on a bomb belt like some other angry extremists we all see on the news?
Nah, she's too loud for that. She might someday inspire someone else to do that, but I doubt she would -- after all, it would be like admitting defeat.
Thefremen
03-24-2008, 04:24 AM
Looked at her website, getting a born 500 years too late vibe from her... judging by the picture of a sword, she would have been at home during the inquisition.
No, because she's far too obvious in the way she goes about things. Keep in mind, one of the principal weapons of the Spanish Inquisition is that noone suspects it.
MUTANT SPUD
03-24-2008, 08:30 AM
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/harry_potter_books_spark_rise_in
I promised myself I wasn't going to start posting stuff from The Onion because then I'd want to post all of the stuff from The Onion, but this is funny and right on topic. "Jesus died because he was weak and stupid"..hehehe.:D
Demontestament
03-24-2008, 12:13 PM
The sad thing is that in mostly every school around me, the Harry Potter books have been banned. Due to religious parents making unintelligent statements that the books would lure their children into the depths of hell by teaching them the black arts. Even if it was read by their friends the cursed arts would penetrate the weak wills of those who do not follow the bible and then corrupt good moral children.
So sadly this idiocy has been going on since Book 1. Hell one school has banned anything Harry Potter just because of the outrage a parent had because a kid who was in her son's class has a HP backpack.
Referring to the recent rash of deadly assaults at schools, Mallory said books that promote evil - as she claims the Potter ones do - help foster the kind of culture where school shootings happen.
Books promote evil? Really? Let the evil book burning commence! News flash lady, the bible is also a book? Does that mean it promotes evil too? And as to the HP books being responsible for shootings, please show me any proof of a school shooting where students were shouting "Avada Kedavra!" before shooting their fellow students. This is just one more moron who should have not been allowed to breed.
MUTANT SPUD
03-25-2008, 08:37 AM
The sad thing is that in mostly every school around me, the Harry Potter books have been banned. Due to religious parents making unintelligent statements that the books would lure their children into the depths of hell by teaching them the black arts. Even if it was read by their friends the cursed arts would penetrate the weak wills of those who do not follow the bible and then corrupt good moral children.
So sadly this idiocy has been going on since Book 1. Hell one school has banned anything Harry Potter just because of the outrage a parent had because a kid who was in her son's class has a HP backpack.
Books promote evil? Really? Let the evil book burning commence! News flash lady, the bible is also a book? Does that mean it promotes evil too? And as to the HP books being responsible for shootings, please show me any proof of a school shooting where students were shouting "Avada Kedavra!" before shooting their fellow students. This is just one more moron who should have not been allowed to breed. The whole thing is stoopid, HP is about good and evil, I'm no fan, I lasted about 2 chapters into the first book when my old friend the MEH! took hold of me (visualise me saying MEH! and dropping the book onto the floor next to the bed). Its not the dumbest kids book I've ever come across, the Hardy boys would probably take that dubious honour but its hardly going to cause an outbreak of lawlessness.
Dumb parents fuss about dumb stuff, they have too much time on their hands and not enough wit to use it constructively, if its not one thing its another with these people. What about Pokemon and Magic: The Gathering or Smackdown or freaking Hula Hoops for that matter, for every childish fad theres an immature ill informed twit who can find a link to anti social behaviour.
And just out of interest does anyone else pick up on the fact that these religious fundamentalists and other assorted school reforming wacko's are for the most part emotionally damaged or somehow mentally unbalanced,
I notice it a lot, not just with the god botherers but in other groups as well, ever met a sane radical feminist? or a wholesome well rounded environmental warrior?
hans moleman
03-25-2008, 08:44 AM
ever met a sane radical feminist? or a wholesome well rounded environmental warrior?
Just one. me (an equal opportunist, at least) :p
Just one. me (an equal opportunist, at least) :p
Feminists don't like equal rights. They want to be SPESHUL, remember?
kurisu7885
03-25-2008, 10:08 AM
I wasn't aware Harry Potter went into super great detail on how the spells were performed, I thought it was just a glance and not enough to make a kid think they can do it. :rolleyes:
Demontestament
03-25-2008, 11:49 AM
I wasn't aware Harry Potter went into super great detail on how the spells were performed, I thought it was just a glance and not enough to make a kid think they can do it. :rolleyes:
If those spells were real, people like me would use them to lower the population of the human species by a very large percent. :D
kurisu7885
03-25-2008, 02:19 PM
If those spells were real, people like me would use them to lower the population of the human species by a very large percent. :D
Would certainly kick up the general IQ by a few notches.
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