Jack Thompson Thread #3 [Archive]

Some Lazy Dr

12-26-2006, 04:22 AM

DO NOT FLAME THIS TIME AROUND. IF YOU DO, I WILL CONTACT A MOD PERSONALLY.

Thank you. Talk about Jack Thompson and his issues, don't start a flame war again, or I really won't create another one of these.

Stick to the issues, not the man. Dennis' rules, not mine. Mine would be more lenient, but it is his site. This means, no depicting Jack Thompson in any humor scenes or links to them. Sorry.

And, of course- debate on what he is going to do next. Enjoy the thread, I personally found GP out because of the anti-Jack Thompson arguments, and I promote gaming.

If you are Jack Thompson (come on, he always tries to get here Dennis), please listen to the Gamers arguments. As the gamers will listen to yours, no doubt.
If you agree with Jack, same rules.

And like I said before, you start a war, you'll see the red, white and blue tape. Unless your a senator's son. Now post away!

Man I wish you would let him fall by the wayside. Really I am just stepping in to reiterate, the fact that this thread generally gets heavy moderation, and is likely to be closed when it eventually degrades into nonsense, or becomes too long to maintain. -Toll

Grahamr

12-26-2006, 12:56 PM

Post in the Dennis Mcualley thread instead.

kurisu7885

12-27-2006, 05:34 AM

Unfortunately, we may be hearing a bit more from our Floridian friend soon... You see... /b/ has aquired his phone and cell numbers. Of course, both are readily available through Google, but still. Anyways, looks like a slight raid of sorts is being started. Though honestly, I don't expect it to pan out to anything near the epicness of the Hal Turner raid.

Here's hoping a big scene doesn't accure because of this.

Same here. The absolute last thing we need is for Thompson to have more "proof" that he's right.

12-27-2006, 08:54 PM

THey did this one Gaia befor.e Basically they flood a forum or inbox with alot of the most vulgar and disgusting language and imagery you can imagine.

That's because Gaia keeps flooding /b/ with it's goofiness. Seriously.

Anjin-San

12-27-2006, 09:33 PM

Please get back on subject, folks.

Cecil475

12-27-2006, 11:04 PM

Please get back on subject, folks.

(The sounds of squealing tires, blaring horns and people cursing can be heard as the topic makes a hard U-turn on the super information highway, and drives off in the opposite direction.)

Jack has been too quiet lately. I wonder what he is up to.

- Warren Lewis

kurisu7885

12-27-2006, 11:11 PM

That's because Gaia keeps flooding /b/ with it's goofiness. Seriously.

Actually ,that was over the ORly? hat item on Gaia. /b/ thinks they own that image.

kurisu7885

12-27-2006, 11:13 PM

Please get back on subject, folks.

Sorry Anjin.

Some Lazy Dr

12-28-2006, 06:43 AM

Enough about Gaia Online and 4CHAN! I hear enough about it from my cousin. (I do use Gaia, yes. We're advertising Jack Thompson, not Gaia in this thread. I'm not buying anything there.)

Back to the issues. I do not advise anyone to start harassing the guy over the phone, leave his family outta it. If he stays quiet for more then six months, then we'll be cool.

Ideas on what he's up to?

Cecil475

12-28-2006, 08:14 AM

kurisu7885

12-28-2006, 08:29 AM

I'm actually not surprised that he's not, or rather tryign to, stop the development of GTA4. He needs another whipping boy, and it'll turn out like Bully, he'll come in as info is being released on the game, which is late i nthe development process, and can do little to nothing to stop it.

Yukimura

12-28-2006, 03:26 PM

kurisu7885

12-28-2006, 10:13 PM

Some Lazy Dr

12-28-2006, 10:56 PM

I haven't heard of either. But since this is the Thompson thread I'll look them up on Wikipedia.

- Warren Lewis

Not even related to each other. Gaia and 4Chan are anime boards, 4chan being more explicit.

My hypothesis for the hearing:

Judge) Jack Thompson, you are in contempt of the court! Go to jail.

nightwng2000

12-29-2006, 09:19 AM

The only reason I put this in this thread is because it's referring to John Bruce. If a mod wants to dump it in the OT Chat thread, that's ok too.

After seeing today's Headline about John Bruce, I'd like to repeat a prior desire to see a T-Shirt with a drawn image of John Bruce, with an evil smile, holding an apparent copy of the US Constitution in one hand and a lit lighter (in the shape of a cross) in his other hand, with the flame a mere few centimeters under the Constitution. With a caption that says something like "John Bruce 'Jack' Thompson says: It's my way, or else!"
Ok, maybe you don't have to put the name, but the rest works for me.

Seriously, I want one.

Some Lazy Dr

01-01-2007, 03:39 AM

If someone can get a good snapshot of him and send it to me, I'd love to make that image.

kurisu7885

01-01-2007, 07:18 AM

If someone can get a good snapshot of him and send it to me, I'd love to make that image.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v116/Kurisu7885/thompsonphoenix.jpg I've had this for a while already, speaking of images.

TrentHowell

01-01-2007, 07:33 PM

Right now jack is probably gearing up for his contempt hearing, as last I hear, that was still on track to happen during the start of the new year.

So he'd probably way to busy to haress the industry right now.

whats the worst that can happen to him though, i mean realisitically not in theory, if he is found guilty. Jail time would probably be deserving for him and might silence him for awhile when he gets out, but thats probably best case scenario for us and worst case scenario for him.

OT: 4chan and gaia basically negate each other if invasions occur between them :p. Gaia has enough idiots that any 4channer or /b/tard that comes in would be a minor distraction and vice versa.

Beacon

01-02-2007, 02:56 PM

kurisu7885

01-02-2007, 03:01 PM

Okay, so Jack Thompson has vowed to put out more public nuisance suits in 2007. Any theories on what games he might be targetting? His email to Dennis implies he has some specific titles in mind, but I can't think of any particular games looming on the horizon that would make appealing targets.

GTA4 and Bioshock, GTA4 simply because it's GTA, and Bioshock since in that game you can, you don't have to, but you can kill children, albeit mutant children, of course in Jack's world that will be the main point of the game, killing kids.

IanCharles@gmail.com

01-03-2007, 12:22 PM

Kurisu7885 got it right, in a way - http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/03/thompson-threatens-microsoft-over-gta4-ignores-sony/

Everybody's favorite lawyer is at it again, this time sending a heads up letter to Microsoft chairman Bill Gates promising to "undertake various means to prohibit and stop the sale of [Grand Theft Auto 4] to minors." The letter, a copy of which was sent to Joystiq, warns Microsoft against "participating in any fashion, directly or indirectly, in such sales to minors." We can only guess than indirect participation would be simply allowing the game to be released on the Xbox 360, and we doubt that Microsoft will be willing to give up its day-and-date bombshell just because of a vague threat from Thompson.

In the letter, Thompson cites an Interfaith Center on Corporate Responsibility report which shows game retailers like Target and Best Buy are actually "doing a better job of controlling sales of violent video games to children." Wouldn't a study that shows retailers doing a worse job have been a better choice? Also, wouldn't such a letter have been more effective going to a retailer than a console maker that has little to no control on point-of-purchase sales ratings enforcement?

And why is Thompson targeting Microsoft while ignoring Sony, which is also planning to host GTA4 on its system later this year? Last year Sony was public enemy No. 1 for allowing GTA in Japan. Has the PS3's launch-time troubles made them a less attractive target?

Hes attacking MS over it instead of Rockstar, hence my in a way comment :)

beemoh

01-03-2007, 01:58 PM

I can't wait for him to genuinely launch a suit against MS. He won't know what hit him if they decide to fight back.

kurisu7885

01-03-2007, 03:25 PM

*headdesk* This is one of those things I didn't even wanna be remotely right about.

Now he's gonna make people want the game. I mean, I already did. Still, this is gonna be just like Bully, and Microsoft ain't gonna give this sure hit up for some hack wannabe lawyer.

Cecil475

01-03-2007, 03:37 PM

Everybody's favorite lawyer is at it again, this time sending a heads up letter to Microsoft chairman Bill Gates promising to "undertake various means to prohibit and stop the sale of [Grand Theft Auto 4] to minors." The letter, a copy of which was sent to Joystiq, warns Microsoft against "participating in any fashion, directly or indirectly, in such sales to minors." We can only guess than indirect participation would be simply allowing the game to be released on the Xbox 360, and we doubt that Microsoft will be willing to give up its day-and-date bombshell just because of a vague threat from Thompson.

In the letter, Thompson cites an Interfaith Center on Corporate Responsibility report which shows game retailers like Target and Best Buy are actually "doing a better job of controlling sales of violent video games to children." Wouldn't a study that shows retailers doing a worse job have been a better choice? Also, wouldn't such a letter have been more effective going to a retailer than a console maker that has little to no control on point-of-purchase sales ratings enforcement?

And why is Thompson targeting Microsoft while ignoring Sony, which is also planning to host GTA4 on its system later this year? Last year Sony was public enemy No. 1 for allowing GTA in Japan. Has the PS3's launch-time troubles made them a less attractive target?

Yeah, since he said Sony distributing violent videogames in America is like the second Pearl Harbor.

- Warren Lewis

Edit - I forgot the most important part of all. Thompson wont go through with it becuase He Tried to do the same with Bully. He told Gates that he had 54 days to drop the game or else. It was dropped well after 54 days for reasons I don't remember other than it did not have anything to do with Thompson.

Oh yeah...AND NOTHING HAPPENED!!

PyroHazard

01-03-2007, 04:29 PM

Kurisu7885 got it right, in a way - http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/03/thompson-threatens-microsoft-over-gta4-ignores-sony/

Hes attacking MS over it instead of Rockstar, hence my in a way comment :)

'Bout bloody time. GTA4 was announced last summer and it took him this long to go on the horn and "antagonize" us about banning it from minors. Let's hope he pulls something really inane and insane so I have something to be entertained by that isn't a GTA game. :)

PyroHazard

01-03-2007, 10:04 PM

Till everyones favorite dirtbag, scum bucket attorney tries to blame todays Tocoma school shooting on games? Wanna get a pool going?

I bid 24 hours tops.

As sad as this event is ,I just know that scumbag will be blaming it on games shortly

::Stomps off to vent anger on Smackdown VS RAW 2007::

I give it a week's tops. He is pre-occupied with malpractice suits and his impending "No Games For 2007" campaign.

Kincyr

01-03-2007, 10:29 PM

I give it a week's tops. He is pre-occupied with malpractice suits and his impending "No Games For 2007" campaign.

Too bad for him a few games already came out this year (I can only think of E-rated games but they are games nonetheless:D)

Beacon

01-04-2007, 08:01 PM

Kurisu7885 got it right, in a way - http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/03/thompson-threatens-microsoft-over-gta4-ignores-sony/
Has he been banned from the Joystiq comments or something? I haven't heard of him trolling there lately. There's a couple of comments by a "Jack Thompson" in this thread, but those are obviously not from the real thing.

nightwng2000

01-04-2007, 10:16 PM

Is this a joke story? At some spots, it seems over the top funny, too difficult to believe:

http://www.bbspot.com/News/2007/01/rockstar-games-stalker.html

Edit: Yes, it appears to be (see the About Us). Still, it's hilarious.

V-22 Osprey

01-05-2007, 01:06 AM

There's a new interview with Jack Thompson here:
He uses the end of the interview to complain about being blocked from viewing this site.

Yukimura

01-05-2007, 01:27 AM

There's a new interview with Jack Thompson here:[/URL]

He uses the end of the interview to complain about being blocked from viewing this site.

Never fails to come off as a Jackass, nor does he fail to lie and miss lead the interviewer. SOmeone better inform them about some of the stuff he ommited, or that they omited eh?

Oh, and heres the link: [url]http://play.tm/story/8809 (http://http://play.tm/story/8809)

Now, someone contact Play and let them know to add some corrections to that bull****!

kurisu7885

01-05-2007, 09:34 AM

IanCharles@gmail.com

01-05-2007, 12:55 PM

Has he been banned from the Joystiq comments or something? I haven't heard of him trolling there lately.

I think he has. Either that or the delete his comments pretty quickly.

He uses the end of the interview to complain about being blocked from viewing this site.

Youd think he remember why he was blocked....

V-22 Osprey

01-05-2007, 01:04 PM

Whoops, sorry about that. I edited my post to display the link, but then it just showed with tags. Odd.

kurisu7885

01-05-2007, 01:10 PM

Youd think he remember why he was blocked....

No, he just denies he did anythign to get blocked and we're just censoring him. At least he used the word "posting priviledges" instead of "posting rights."

Beacon

01-05-2007, 03:00 PM

kurisu7885

01-05-2007, 03:05 PM

Grahamr

01-05-2007, 03:08 PM

Cocaine is a popular "past time," too. That doesn't make its consumption, certainly by kids, something we ought to look away from. I don't gauge what I do based upon polls, and certainly not polls of gamers. I couldn't care less what some 14-year-old thinks is good or not good for him. I listen to scientists, health care providers, public safety officials, and I base what I do based upon their findings, not what some readers of Game Informer magazine wish was true because of how they waste their time.
Post is too short

kurisu7885

01-05-2007, 03:38 PM

Post is too short

One of his worst arguments to date.

Cecil475

01-05-2007, 03:56 PM

(1.)Cocaine is a popular "past time," too. That doesn't make its consumption, certainly by kids, something we ought to look away from. (2.)I don't gauge what I do based upon polls, and certainly not polls of gamers.
(3.) I couldn't care less what some 14-year-old thinks is good or not good for him. I listen to scientists, health care providers, public safety officials, and I base what I do based upon their findings, not what some readers of Game Informer magazine wish was true because of how they waste their time.

1. It must be the newest pastime out there. I sure havent heard of it before. As a pastime that is.
2. Thompson doesn't care what any one says (let alone gamers) unless they blindly agree with him. (In the long run he still does not care.)
3. This reminds me. Isn't his son about the age he lists above? Didn't he also say his son plays videogames? (E rated if I remember correctly.) So by saying the above does he lump his own son into that stereotype that he has painted gamers? I'm not dragging his family into any of this other than to make this point. It's just that his recent interview for me paints a picture that says He doesen't allow any videogames in the house other than the ones he uses in his cases.

- Warren Lewis

Kincyr

01-05-2007, 05:29 PM

I have so little time on this earth that I choose not to waste it in what amounts to mental masturbation.
Quite ironic since his crusade against videogames is his mental masturbation.

...how is it possible to train a person in the expert use of lethal firearms in a 'simulation' that uses only ones thumbs?
(Note how Jack's reply doesn't answer this part of the multipart question)

Beacon

01-05-2007, 05:40 PM

One has to wonder what he does with his spare time. According to him, gaming is a "mental masturbation" because it doesn't produce anything. Neither does watching a movie or reading a book, though. Board games and card games, too. By this logic, even sports aren't exempt. Yes, they give you a good workout, but you could get better results by a strict fitness regimen.
So why do we play games, read books, watch movies, play sports? To have fun! The idea an action is only worth doing if it produces something is rediculous. Of course, if you get down to it, all of these do have a benefit to them. They help us unwind and relax. They can improve hand-eye co-ordination as well as problem solving skills. They can teach. They can build a community. They can let a father and son bond when they're half a world away.

Cecil475

01-05-2007, 05:52 PM

Quite ironic since his crusade against videogames is his mental masturbation.
Ooooh! Good one! Why didn't I think of that one?

(Note how Jack's reply doesn't answer this part of the multipart question)

That would not have suprised me. The question was too logical.

PyroHazard

01-05-2007, 05:53 PM

Never fails to come off as a Jackass, nor does he fail to lie and miss lead the interviewer. SOmeone better inform them about some of the stuff he ommited, or that they omited eh?

Oh, and heres the link: http://play.tm/story/8809

Now, someone contact Play and let them know to add some corrections to that bull****!

Holy hell on a Sunday! The main image of Jack's blown up face scared the living thetans out of me!

nightwng2000

01-05-2007, 07:06 PM

Holy hell on a Sunday! The main image of Jack's blown up face scared the living thetans out of me!

Scared me worse 'cuz my resolution is set to 800x600 and my face still has to be close to the screen to read some material. That picture was almost as big as my screen and it popped right in front of my face.

The horror! The horror!

Bad Wolf

01-05-2007, 08:43 PM

:eek: Can't sleep, Jack'll eat me...

Kincyr

01-05-2007, 09:14 PM

Holy hell on a Sunday! The main image of Jack's blown up face scared the living thetans out of me!
Scared me worse 'cuz my resolution is set to 800x600 and my face still has to be close to the screen to read some material. That picture was almost as big as my screen and it popped right in front of my face.

The horror! The horror!
:eek: Can't sleep, Jack'll eat me...
I'm glad I wasn't the only one scared... :eek: Oh god, look at all that plaque!

Cecil475

01-05-2007, 10:12 PM

I'm glad I wasn't the only one scared... :eek: Oh god, look at all that plaque!

It sure made me want to run off screaming.

- Warren Lewis

Cecil475

01-06-2007, 04:13 AM

Just thought of this. For someone who doesn't care about what the opinions of the gaming community are, he sure gets interviewed by gaming publications (internet radio/magizines.)

- Warren Lewis

IanCharles@gmail.com

01-06-2007, 12:21 PM

I listen to scientists, health care providers, public safety officials, and I base what I do based upon their findings, not what some readers of Game Informer magazine wish was true because of how they waste their time.

Heh, for every finding that says games influnce bad behevior, theres tons more that say they dont. So much for him listening to all of their findings, eh.

kurisu7885

01-06-2007, 04:10 PM

Heh, for every finding that says games influnce bad behevior, theres tons more that say they dont. So much for him listening to all of their findings, eh.

"get the facts first, then you can distort them as you please." Problem is, THompson tends to skip step one.

Demontestament

01-08-2007, 04:26 PM

I said it on the main site, if Jack can explain ot me in a mature and polite manner why I, a 21 year old who has been playing violent games sine age 13, hasn't yet went nuts and killed twenty or more people, then I might listen, course if that happens I expect to see pigs fly.

Hell I would ask him the same thing, I am a 24 year old who has been playing videogames since I was 2(yes I was playing frogger so what wanna fight about it?) And not once have I killed anybody or resorted to random acts of violence. I only have fought in self defense.

I expect him to start complaing about the Wii and how the games train kids how to use guns and swords via the Wiimote very soon.

Jack Thompson is the Kanye West of the law world.

John

01-08-2007, 05:00 PM

kurisu7885

01-08-2007, 05:56 PM

Hmmm...hasn't been posted here yet.

Seems like Jack has turned over a new leaf.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6163854.html

Or at least he realized he can't win.

I've been noticing lately a lot of the anti-gamers waving the white flag. Like Hilary and Joe wanting to work with the ESRB. And now Jack?

The tide of the anti-gamers in the US seems to be dying. Unfortunately, it seems to be making its way to Europe.

And it's still hitting Australia and New Zealand.
O.o This can't be him. It sounds too much like a bluff, so if the industry refuses he can be like "see!? They refuse to work with me, they hate kids and only care about monies!!!" Sorry, just I remember that Jack THompson apology on the LJ comment boards and we immediately knew it was BS, course it was a prank by a user, but, meh, I hope I conveyed it.

kurisu7885

01-08-2007, 05:57 PM

Hell I would ask him the same thing, I am a 24 year old who has been playing videogames since I was 2(yes I was playing frogger so what wanna fight about it?) And not once have I killed anybody or resorted to random acts of violence. I only have fought in self defense.

I expect him to start complaing about the Wii and how the games train kids how to use guns and swords via the Wiimote very soon.

Jack Thompson is the Kanye West of the law world.

Oh yeah, because the Wii totally doesn't need a pistol grip attachment[which I heard is in the works nad is the new zapper] and allows you to accoutn for recoil, has a slide, and has you load clips.

Yukimura

01-08-2007, 06:34 PM

Odds that jacks new bill will die: 100 percent.

Odds the industry tells jack to go away: 100 percent.

Odds the industry actually grows a pair and puts jack out of action legally: 50/50 depending on who replaces doug.

Odds that none of it matters since theres now a mountian of precident: 100 percent.

Theres some things zealotry can't buy, for everything else, there delusion.

Jacks lost and he knows it. Doesn't matter who he gets to back his new bill. didn't he say he'd reveal what state it was Monday? Well, it's monday, and so far, ain't nothing coming about which state fell for his asine bs this time.

Hopefully whoever it is calls Louisana and asks about him before hand. Or maybe the indsutry can launch a premptive strike this time.

nightwng2000

01-08-2007, 07:32 PM

Actually, I believe I suggested a long time ago that retailers be required to follow their policies. Remember the "live" Q&A we had with Hal Halpin?

At the time, he was against punishing financially retailers who didn't live up to their policies.

I still think it should be the industry and merchant associations that put the smackdown on retailers who don't follow their policies.

When retailers create policies based on ESRB ratings, they're doing it blindly, not raising the question of appropriate or inappropriate. They're not passing judgement on content or any particular game. I can live with that. And if the industry and merchant associations want to require retailers to create policies and make them follow those policies, that's fine in my opinion.

When legislators, politicians, and other individuals and organizations demand legislation, censorship, and so on, they are passing personal/religious/political judgment on the material. That violates individual and parental rights.

I submit that John Bruce is attempting a tactical assault, possibly in advance of his so-called "public nuisance" cases. As was pointed out by another, if the industry fights back and says no, John Bruce will claim the industry isn't willing to even act reasonably. If the industry agrees, John Bruce could potentially argue that the industry is admitting that M rated games may be harmful (even if that's that the real reason the industry would agree). It would be an APA like argument. John Bruce would find a way to twist the meaning to suit his own purposes.

Trust him? Not on your life.

Beacon

01-08-2007, 07:37 PM

My guess is, assuming they go along with this idea (part of me suspects that it might generate too much tension between the developers and the retailers and be rejected on those grounds), then he'll probably start complaining that they're not being strict enough. He never says what kind of success rating he'd find acceptable. 60-70% seems to be good enough for the movie theaters, but the video game retailers already have that rate. He'll probably insist that the success rate needs to be 100%.

kurisu7885

01-08-2007, 07:51 PM

Thefremen

01-08-2007, 09:49 PM

Not enough. He;d want 200%

Not here, not ever.

Cecil475

01-08-2007, 10:12 PM

Comment from the Jack Thompson videogame bill on the main page. I'm posting it here becuase the main page STILL THINKS I'M SPAM!!! :mad:
------------------------------------------------------------

What. The. Hell.

Becuase of him the state of Louisiana owes the videogame industry over 100 thousand dollars. And He wants to have another go? Someone should warn Mr Mayor about the pile of **** this guy is going to put himself through just by associating himself with the likes of Thompson.

Also, will the ECA work in these kinds of cases?

- Warren Lewis

Edit - I apologise for yelling. I get really frustrated when the spam blocker catches my posts and does so no matter what I do. I also fixed some spelling.
Edit II - fixed more spelling.
Edit III - Am I correct on this? If not, how far off am I?

Cecil475

01-08-2007, 10:34 PM

O.o This can't be him. It sounds too much like a bluff, so if the industry refuses he can be like "see!? They refuse to work with me, they hate kids and only care about monies!!!" Sorry, just I remember that Jack THompson apology on the LJ comment boards and we immediately knew it was BS, course it was a prank by a user, but, meh, I hope I conveyed it.

Doh! That was me. I opened a livejournal called jackissorry. As an April fool's joke. Wow someone still remembers that. :p

- Warren Lewis

Edit - It still works too. (http://jackissorry.livejournal.com/) I wonder If I still remember the login info?

kurisu7885

01-08-2007, 10:37 PM

Doh! That was me. I opened a livejournal called jackissorry. As an April fool's joke. Wow someone still remembers that. :p

- Warren Lewis

Edit - It still works too. (http://jackissorry.livejournal.com/) I wonder If I still remember the login info?

*headdesk* I didn'tk now that was you.

Cecil475

01-08-2007, 10:42 PM

*headdesk* I didn'tk now that was you.

Yeah. I'm just suprised (and pleased:p) that someone remembered. I must do something for April Fools this year.

- Warren Lewis

Edit - I was able to remember my login info for Jackissorry. (http://jackissorry.livejournal.com) I'll have to post something as proof.

Edit II - Original April Fool's joke (Yeah I saved a copy.)

I want to apoligise to the people on this site that I have insulted. On this site and a few others I have said a lot of rude things. I have compaired the gamers here to terrorist drug addicts and recently the Taliban as well as other names and remarks. Yesterday my thirteen year old son found out about the messages that I post on this site. He saw the many names I called gamers. He told me "I play videogames. You don't think I'm a pixelante terrorist do you?" After that he would not be in the same room with me, or speak to me. I had then realized how wrong I was. I have been on 60 minutes as well as CNN and Readers Digest. I got on and told the public that All I wanted to do is make sure children couldnt get their hands of matereal that is harmful to them, and then I came on here and told people here something diffrent than what I told the media. While I still believe that violent games like gta and 25 to life can lead to school shootings I now also beleive that I should not have been rude to people just becuase they do not share my views. I have been contacted by people who want to kill me. But I have also been contacted by people who just want to know more about my views and I have been rude to them both. I make this apology to the readers of this site and I will make seprate apologies to the people of the game industry that I have insulted as another to the NIMF. I also apoigise about the things I said about the gamer that commited suicide. The reason that got me banned to start with. I do not expect nor deserve forgiveness for my actions or the things I have said to the gamers and the industry they support. With this being my 21st username on this site I have to admit that it as me who was obsessed.So to the people of Gamepolitics and to Dennis McCauley and to others that I have insulted and harassed

I'm sorry. Jack Thompson

Interesting since It shows that he was actually on his 20th LJ at the time and was banned about 35-37 LJ accounts later. That it, unless he made more that I am not aware of. Finally, I updated jackissorry (http://jackissorry.livejournal.com) fore more than likley the final time.

We now return to our regular sceduled topic, already in progress.

- Warren Lewis

Grahamr

01-09-2007, 12:21 AM

That leaves me wishing he would actully apologize to us:(

mechboy

01-09-2007, 02:01 AM

Hmmm...hasn't been posted here yet.

Seems like Jack has turned over a new leaf.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6163854.html

Or at least he realized he can't win.

My reaction to this was "it's a trick, get an axe."

01-10-2007, 07:37 AM

It's a tarp............

kurisu7885

01-10-2007, 07:39 AM

That leaves me wishing he would actully apologize to us:(

How Ironic is it that he doesn't know he might get an apologgy or two in return.

@KN My thoughts exactly.

Boffo97

01-14-2007, 08:35 AM

I note he didn't specify which cases where the defendant allegedly got off using the video game plea. Anybody have more info on this?
And wasn't Grossman the one who said that before video games, no one really killed each other, and that the Greek wars were effectively giant pushing matches? I don't see how anyone can take that man seriously.
More lies, self-righteousness, etc. Nothing terribly new here.

He was actually being, as ever, disingenuous there.

I looked up "The Matrix Defense" on Wikipedia.

It does exist. People have gotten off on it.

But it refers to a special branch of the insanity defense for people who committed crimes because they believed they were inside the Matrix due to the MOVIE SERIES. It has nothing to do with video games.

But obviously, banning or restricting movies wouldn't be tolerated or even prudent.

Yes, there's going to be crazy people. Yes, some are going to blame their craziness on games. But if games didn't exist, their craziness would simply have something else to blame.

In that interview's comments, Jack never did answer if he intends to repay the state of Louisiana any of the $157,000+ that his bill cost them.

kurisu7885

01-14-2007, 09:09 AM

In that interview's comments, Jack never did answer if he intends to repay the state of Louisiana any of the $157,000+ that his bill cost them.

If he never intended to pay up on his "modest proposal" then he sure as hell won't pay up on anything now.

Boffo97

01-14-2007, 10:07 AM

If he never intended to pay up on his "modest proposal" then he sure as hell won't pay up on anything now.

I love how he says all the head of RockStar has to do is name the charity... then falls back and says the game still hasn't been COMMERCIALLY released.

And then even if it was, you know he'd then welsh on the basis it wasn't released in the year 2006.

kurisu7885

01-14-2007, 11:01 AM

I love how he says all the head of RockStar has to do is name the charity... then falls back and says the game still hasn't been COMMERCIALLY released.

And then even if it was, you know he'd then welsh on the basis it wasn't released in the year 2006.

Or he's speak up about how it may have something he said wasn't asked for ,or look for some other minute detail.

Boffo97

01-15-2007, 11:05 AM

I actually got some replies from him in the comments to the play.tm article.

First, when I brought up how his law cost Louisiana $157,000+ which could be used on Katrina victims, he replied sarcastically that the federal government, the Red Cross and a thousand other charities were taking care of that, but he guesses I missed it. But in the meantime, no charities were taking care of the families in Paducah or Alabama, and then he asks how much did Columbine cost.

Later, I called him on wanting to ban games. He replied in all caps that he said in the interview he didn't want to do that. I mentioned he also said in the interview that he wanted to take down RockStar, and brought up that there's been incidents like him wanting 25 To Life seized, and how could I play games that have been seized, or if the company that makes them has been driven out of business, and therefore, it IS a de facto ban of games he's after.

IanCharles@gmail.com

01-15-2007, 03:50 PM

and then he asks how much did Columbine cost.
Err, a hell of a lot less than Katrina?

See he is the same old Jack.

voodooKobra

01-16-2007, 01:46 AM

Columbine didn't cost nearly as much as the destruction of the southern half of Lousiana. Sorry Jack, this time the statistics aren't on your side. Nor were they ever on your side:

http://www.kobrasrealm.net/kobra/images/vgame-graph.png

BearDogg-X

01-16-2007, 10:31 AM

First, when I brought up how his law cost Louisiana $157,000+ which could be used on Katrina victims, he replied sarcastically that the federal government, the Red Cross and a thousand other charities were taking care of that, but he guesses I missed it. But in the meantime, no charities were taking care of the families in Paducah or Alabama, and then he asks how much did Columbine cost.

Yeah, but are the feds going to authorize funding for new hurricane protection levees in places that don't have them, or for upgrading the levees in New Orleans?

And nobody cares about the families in Paducah or Alabama anymore specifically because of their and Thompson's attempts to make money off the deaths of their loved ones by crazy people.

Katrina cost upwards of Billions of dollars in damage and approximately 1,500 lives. Compared to that, Columbine ain't worth ****.

IanCharles@gmail.com

01-16-2007, 12:47 PM

*looks at front page* *shakes head*

Thefremen

01-16-2007, 01:33 PM

*looks at front page* *shakes head*

I agree. This is truely saddening because this boy's life may be at stake and the fox is being trusted to gaurd the henhouse. JT has danced on the graves of dozens of gamers, it is in his best interests the boy never be seen again since otherwise the cause of his troubles may ultimately be revealed as something other than gaming.

Demontestament

01-16-2007, 04:22 PM

I agree. This is truely saddening because this boy's life may be at stake and the fox is being trusted to gaurd the henhouse. JT has danced on the graves of dozens of gamers, it is in his best interests the boy never be seen again since otherwise the cause of his troubles may ultimately be revealed as something other than gaming.

And what exactly can he bring to the table to ensure the kid is found? Nothing I can think of. Just he will be praying the kid will be found dead so he can blame Video Games, Take Two, Sony, the Internet and Bill Gates.

kurisu7885

01-16-2007, 05:56 PM

And what exactly can he bring to the table to ensure the kid is found? Nothing I can think of. Just he will be praying the kid will be found dead so he can blame Video Games, Take Two, Sony, the Internet and Bill Gates.

Video games just because, Take Two for publishing the game[even though to my knowledge they don't have any MMOs on their roster] the internet for allowing the guy online, and Bill Gates for supplying the computer the game was played on, and Sony for, well, uh, someone fill that one in please.

Cecil475

01-16-2007, 06:29 PM

Video games just because, Take Two for publishing the game[even though to my knowledge they don't have any MMOs on their roster] the internet for allowing the guy online, and Bill Gates for supplying the computer the game was played on, and Sony for, well, uh, someone fill that one in please.

Becuase he can.

- Warren Lewis

Namrepus221

01-17-2007, 12:08 AM

Apparently Jack took my message to heart when I suggested he visit my college, and after baffling the administrators with his claim of a signed date last time, a real date for the real thing has been signed and is going to happen.

Below is the flyer that is now being posted on campus

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7154/jackieboy1lu9.th.png (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jackieboy1lu9.png)

Now I know there are some ppl out here that want to come to this thing to heckel Jack...god knows I want to. But I have to say I won't tolerate it personally. He wants to come out here and make an ass of himself, fine, we don't need to help him, and we don't need to make ourselves look bad as well.

But if anyone here is in the area (Jabrwock I'm looking in your general direction) and would like to attend. I highly recommend you do. If there is enough interest in it (positive interest...I won't count ppl saying they want to come to do stuff to or heckle) I will post a google maps link and from there you can get driving instructions.

Grahamr

01-17-2007, 12:22 AM

Amazing......

Garbage Pail Kid

01-17-2007, 01:27 AM

How is Bob Guccione, Jr. an expert on video games? He's a music guy.

By the way, this thread will probably get merged.

You know what, you're right. There is no reason this can't be in the regular Thompson thread. -Toll

Cecil475

01-17-2007, 04:28 AM

How is Bob Guccione, Jr. an expert on video games? He's a music guy.

By the way, this thread will probably get merged.

Anyone can claim to be an expert at anything. Just look at Jack Thompson.

- Warren Lewis

Tollwutig

01-17-2007, 11:24 AM

Ooooo I see we're coming in on 15 pages and people are still behaving. Could it be you guys have learned?:rolleyes:

Garrett

01-17-2007, 11:33 AM

Ooooo I see we're coming in on 15 pages and people are still behaving. Could it be you guys have learned?:rolleyes:

(15 for you, 4 for me.)

IT'S the weight of the ban hammer. It must be! I think we should be handing these out more often:

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/82500/82568hnPM_w.jpg

Cecil475

01-17-2007, 12:03 PM

Ooooo I see we're coming in on 15 pages and people are still behaving. Could it be you guys have learned?:rolleyes:

What were they doing before? I feel like I'm missing something.

- Warren Lewis

Edit - Also was I part of the cause?

- Warren Lewis

kurisu7885

01-17-2007, 12:24 PM

Ooooo I see we're coming in on 15 pages and people are still behaving. Could it be you guys have learned?:rolleyes:

COuld also partly be that MisterS it outta the picture.

Kincyr

01-17-2007, 03:30 PM

COuld also partly be that MisterS it outta the picture.
Speaking of people out of the picture, I forget, whatever happened to Og Thompson?

cyn1c42

01-17-2007, 05:19 PM

Speaking of people out of the picture, I forget, whatever happened to Og Thompson?

I think he quit saying no matter what he did, JT was too insane to parody

nightwng2000

01-17-2007, 09:29 PM

I put this in the front page article, but thought I'd also put it here.

------------------------------
Spong is reporting that John Bruce is claiming the boy has been found.
The update is the only new part which states:

“Update: SPOnG has heard back from Jack Thompson. His response reads: “We have found his son. He is with gamers in Illinois. I was right.”"

I started a number of comments about John Bruce’s obvious bigotry, but I’ll let his use of the word “gamer” (as someone would use a derogatory term to refer people of certain races, sexual orientations, religions, etc) be the evidence of his dishonor and lack of ethics.

After all, we haven’t heard the guy’s side of the story, without manipulation from John Bruce and others.

For all we know, he went there willingly and John Bruce is upset because HE wasn’t consulted as to whether the guy should have been allowed to go or not.

-------------------------------------------------------------
Oh, the link to that story is here:
http://news.spong.com/article/11528 (http://news.spong.com/article/11528)

---------------------------------------------------------------

I gotta calm down. I'm glad the guy is ok, but John Bruce's bigotry really gets my craw.

Cecil475

01-17-2007, 11:02 PM

Yeah. They was a couple of old ladies who play freecell. They was gamers! I tell you!![/scarasm]

If it's true I'm glad he was found and is alright. Most times these things don't turn out alright.

- Warren Lewis

Grahamr

01-18-2007, 12:08 AM

And i quit my "Germanswatguy" Parrody because i couldn't think of anything to say other then "WE'RE THE ANTI PIXELANTE ATTACK SQUAD!!!!1111"

"We're coming for you, crytek!!!!11111one"

BearDogg-X

01-18-2007, 12:11 AM

And i quit my "Germanswatguy" Parrody because i couldn't think of anything to say other then "WE'RE THE ANTI PIXELANTE ATTACK SQUAD!!!!1111"

"We're coming for you, crytek!!!!11111one"

That's because the anti-gamers are nothing but one-trick ponies.

Grahamr

01-18-2007, 12:03 PM

True. I'll have to invent another parody some time.

Cecil475

01-18-2007, 12:21 PM

I'm a little clueless here. After (or before) sending out his email, did Jack contact the parents? If Jacob Pribyl called his parents on Tuesday, Then Dennis and And find the correct phone number to where he was last night?
Also did Jack ACTUALLY find Jacob Pribyl, Even though he got the details wrong, I still wonder. Also I wonder to the point how much trouble Jack will be in when the family finds out he was lying(if he was),and what the family wil do about it.

Any follow-ups to this will be interesting. I'm just glad it ended up the way it did. Honestly it could be worse.

- Warren Lewis

01-18-2007, 12:25 PM

In after bull**** (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003528872_webrunaway17.html).

Bad parents are baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

Oh, this is in this thread because I don't see any reason why this women didn't just get off the phone with Thompson before giving those statements.

Silver_Derstin

01-18-2007, 01:22 PM

On the Prybl case, I have a question... The guy is 20 years old, technically, he's an adult. Yes, his parents should care about him, but isn't he free to do whatever the **** he wants?

Xlorep DarkHelm

01-18-2007, 02:49 PM

On the Prybl case, I have a question... The guy is 20 years old, technically, he's an adult. Yes, his parents should care about him, but isn't he free to do whatever the **** he wants?

To my knowledge, you are correct on all accounts.

Boffo97

01-19-2007, 02:34 AM

Basically it goes like this:

1. Legal adult, who was kind of a shut in before, leaves home without warning. Totally his right, all he's guilty of is lack of consideration and possible bad judgment if these ended up unsavory characters (luckily they didn't).

2. Idiot parents are all "Der! Boy = missing! Dat dere Jack Thompson guy goes on and on about games! Boy played games! He can help us! Der!"

3. Jack Thompson says "Games are THE DEVIL!"

4. Adam Sandler says "Everything is the devil to you, Jack Thompson!" and talks about how he liked Vicky Vallencourt's boobs before storming off. And who doesn't like Vicky Vallencourt's boobs?

5. Police do some useful things. Jack takes credit.

6. SOE does more useful things. They were only slightly less due to finally do something useful than Jack was. Jack taking credit here would be too silly even for Jack.

7. Boy is found. Happy ending. Parents still idiots. Jack still moreso. SOE says "Here's another twenty expansions this month."

Dagrak

01-19-2007, 05:33 AM

And here is todays topic class:

"Representative Wyatt, there is more evidence that violence games are harmful to teens than there is evidence that smoking causes cancer"

Discuss.

kurisu7885

01-19-2007, 07:56 AM

Dagrak

01-19-2007, 09:09 AM

Is it just me or has the "more evidence then smoking" quote been removed from the main site?

Yukimura

01-19-2007, 10:04 AM

Is it just me or has the "more evidence then smoking" quote been removed from the main site?

I'm wondering if theres more to that email then we are seeing on the main site

Silver_Derstin

01-19-2007, 10:38 AM

I'm wondering if theres more to that email then we are seeing on the main site

You doubt that? Jack is well known for going on LONG poorly worded diatribes which lacks sense and/or impact because they can be broken apart.

And smoking = causes cancer.

IanCharles@gmail.com

01-19-2007, 02:24 PM

And here is todays topic class:

"Representative Wyatt, there is more evidence that violence games are harmful to teens than there is evidence that smoking causes cancer"

Discuss.

Well my sides are still aching from laughing so much.

As i said on the main site, with JT it seems you are either with him, or you get a load of abuse hurled at you.

Tollwutig

01-19-2007, 04:04 PM

And here is todays topic class:

"Representative Wyatt, there is more evidence that violence games are harmful to teens than there is evidence that smoking causes cancer"

Discuss.

He's used this one before. Of course there are over four decades of data showing a direct causal relationship between smoking and cancer. Of course video games have only been around really for two and a half decades. Three if you count Pong.

kurisu7885

01-19-2007, 09:24 PM

One thing I keep seeing him do is attach things that have nothing to do with games, to ,well games.

Cecil475

01-20-2007, 01:29 AM

Well my sides are still aching from laughing so much.

As i said on the main site, with JT it seems you are either with him, or you get a load of abuse hurled at you.

Or You are either with me, or you are a gamer.

As you know AG Shurtleff is a video game enthusiast and apologist for the industry…

Like I said in the comments section (Thanks again Dennis) I believe his attitude toward the AG of Utah would have been diffrent if the bill wasn't tossed out of court.

- Warren Lewis

Thefremen

01-20-2007, 01:40 AM

Well my sides are still aching from laughing so much.

As i said on the main site, with JT it seems you are either with him, or you get a load of abuse hurled at you.

JT says: "If you're not with me, you are my enemy!"

nightwng2000

01-20-2007, 01:37 PM

:: pant pant ::
Damn. That post I just sent in response to his latest letter to the Utah AG took me an hour and a half to write (yes, I know, I should have taken another half hour to proofread. While I have MS Word, I prefer to just pull up Notepad then copy/paste to do my long posts.).

IanCharles@gmail.com

01-20-2007, 01:43 PM

It was a great post though nightwing :)

Red_Minotaur

01-20-2007, 05:45 PM

JT says: "If you're not with me, you are my enemy!"

I'd think it would be more like, "If you don't agree with me 100% completely, and have an open mind in this issue, and are therefore willing to hear out the other side, you're my enemy". Or something along the lines of that.

kurisu7885

01-20-2007, 05:54 PM

I'd think it would be more like, "If you don't agree with me 100% completely, and have an open mind in this issue, and are therefore willing to hear out the other side, you're my enemy". Or something along the lines of that.

If you have an open mind period you're his enemy.

Cecil475

01-20-2007, 06:08 PM

If you have an open mind period you're his enemy.

Maybe he wants you to blinbly agree with him?

- Warren Lewis

Yukimura

01-20-2007, 09:11 PM

Maybe he wants you to blinbly agree with him?

- Warren Lewis

Of course thats what he wants, he could never win otherwise.

BTW. love that animated picture below your name. Looks sweet.

Darth_Toxic

01-21-2007, 02:29 PM

I've been listening to a lot of Primus lately, so I've come up with this slightly altered version of one of their song-type things.

We're gathered here today in these sacred halls of old
to honor a man they call Jack Thompson, or John B.
There's a joke or two, a pun or three, but now back to
honoring a man they called J.T.
Jack Thompson got legislators to pen us up a bill,
banning the play of certain games like
GTA
GTA
GTA
GTA
GTA
GTA

IanCharles@gmail.com

01-22-2007, 03:56 PM

If your not with him, he calls for your impeachment.

This is certainly turning into some saga, and its only January.

voodooKobra

01-22-2007, 08:18 PM

While we all wish we could we shall make no such statements. -Toll

kurisu7885

01-22-2007, 08:29 PM

I was just watching AOTS, and Danny Ladonne was on talking about his game getting pulled from Slamdance. I'm just sooo glad, well, partly glad Thompson wasn't a part of that.

Kincyr

01-22-2007, 10:13 PM

I was just watching AOTS, and Danny Ladonne was on talking about his game getting pulled from Slamdance. I'm just sooo glad, well, partly glad Thompson wasn't a part of that.
that hasn't stopped him from claiming victory before.

kurisu7885

01-22-2007, 10:28 PM

that hasn't stopped him from claiming victory before.

True. Mr Ladonne did say if you want a murder simulator, don't look at my game. Either Jack will willfully misinterpret that and say it's an admission of guilt, or try to sue for copyright infringment. I think Jack trademarked it or something.

Red_Minotaur

01-24-2007, 12:13 AM

kurisu7885

01-24-2007, 12:22 AM

I had always thought that Jack had forgotten all about getting banned from GP and put it all in the past. He does, after all, keep in contact with Dennis and continously sends him updates and such. Yet after the story today about the "interview" I guess he's still bitter about the banning and still carries a grudge. He just won't admit that because of his behavior, Dennis had every right to ban him, and he has no right to complain.

Well, he does say he's within his constitutional speech rights, or something like that. He tried to rattle our cages with his "hitler youth" rhetoric, while not realizing the irony in that.

He was given more than 50 chances to be civil, no, we didn't give him 50 tries, her took them, and he still would not clean up his act. He insulted us, called us nazi youth, called us violent, said we were on drugs, wished our loved ones harm, insulted our intellect, posted his address phone number and email so bait us into a trap, he's called us kiddies despite our ages, he's spit in our faces when we extended the olive branch in peace, defended child molesters and serial killers while trying to pin it on games, and the final straw was him demanding our personal information, which would have exposed us to numerous types of danger.

Ya, some crusader for the children he is. If he assumed we were all little kids, he would not have demanded that nor woudl he have said all he has to us.

Cecil475

01-24-2007, 01:17 AM

I had always thought that Jack had forgotten all about getting banned from GP and put it all in the past. He does, after all, keep in contact with Dennis and continously sends him updates and such. Yet after the story today about the "interview" I guess he's still bitter about the banning and still carries a grudge. He just won't admit that because of his behavior, Dennis had every right to ban him, and he has no right to complain.

Let's see....

After he was banned, He emailed several people on the fourm and said:
Why don't you ask Dennis McCauley, at GP, publicly, why he filed a Bar complaint against me? Do that, please. thanks. Jack Thompson

At least thats what he emailed me. I remember reading about others being contacted.

Then Dennis got a blog at Joystiq. Jack made nasty coments there too. Some of which were about being banned I think.

Then there were the contempt hearing that he was in that someone from Destructoid recorded. On the second part he's mumbling to himself. Then abruptly turns to the camera and says:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f180/Cecil475/Jack%20Thompson/Hi_Dennis.jpg

In short..(too late!)..I think he still carrys a grudge. I mean he was trying to have the feds arrest us all right before he was banned. He tried to do that twice I think.

- Warren Lewis

kurisu7885

01-24-2007, 02:25 AM

Let's see....

After he was banned, He emailed several people on the fourm and said:

At least thats what he emailed me. I remember reading about others being contacted.

Then Dennis got a blog at Joystiq. Jack made nasty coments there too. Some of which were about being banned I think.

Then there were the contempt hearing that he was in that someone from Destructoid recorded. On the second part he's mumbling to himself. Then abruptly turns to the camera and says:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f180/Cecil475/Jack%20Thompson/Hi_Dennis.jpg

In short..(too late!)..I think he still carrys a grudge. I mean he was trying to have the feds arrest us all right before he was banned. He tried to do that twice I think.

- Warren Lewis
Yes, actually more than twice he was trying to find ways to get us arrested on federal offenses.

Cecil475

01-24-2007, 02:58 AM

Yes, actually more than twice he was trying to find ways to get us arrested on federal offenses.

The third includes getting addresses and phone numbers, right?

- Warren Lewis

kurisu7885

01-24-2007, 04:58 AM

The third includes getting addresses and phone numbers, right?

- Warren Lewis

Actually, that was a scare tactic. He knew that by posting that info we'd be exposing ourselves to various types of danger, ergo by his logic we would be too scared to post, thus allowing him to monopolize the boards, be as abusive as he wants, and keep us all quiet. But you could be right as well.

Kincyr

01-24-2007, 03:17 PM

...he's called us kiddies despite our ages... defended child molesters... and demanding our personal information...
now that explains a lot about JT. :D Thank god for ellipsisses. I remember when someone (I forget who) suggested doing that to JT's quote about PA's "Dick" T-shirt.

01-24-2007, 03:53 PM

Dennis, can I be your lawsuit magnet? Yaknow, moronic accusations get thrown out much more easily if the accused is in Yurp.

So basically when Jack sends crap legal threats, you direct him to the Guy In The Netherlands. Because that would generate much lulz.

And wait...

...kiddies

defended child molesters

demanding our personal information...

IT ALL ADDS UP o-o

kurisu7885

01-24-2007, 07:31 PM

Dennis, can I be your lawsuit magnet? Yaknow, moronic accusations get thrown out much more easily if the accused is in Yurp.

So basically when Jack sends crap legal threats, you direct him to the Guy In The Netherlands. Because that would generate much lulz.

And wait...

IT ALL ADDS UP o-o

Please explain KN. I'm eager to hear it. :)

Cecil475

01-24-2007, 09:39 PM

Please explain KN. I'm eager to hear it. :)

Me too. Do explain. :D

- Warren Lewis

Dagrak

01-25-2007, 06:33 AM

http://www.actiontrip.com/comics/pics/at_comic173.jpg

I thought it was a bit large to post but the link above leads to a nice little comic people here might appreciate.

Boffo97

01-25-2007, 12:31 PM

kurisu7885

01-27-2007, 07:42 AM

I'm curious. is there a Jack Thompson Sims skin floating around on the net anywhere? I could use a little something to ease frustration.

nightwng2000

01-27-2007, 09:00 AM

What? Are you planning to back him into a corner so he can't get out of it.

Oh, wait, the real John Bruce has already done that to himself lots of times.

IanCharles@gmail.com

01-27-2007, 01:17 PM

Oh, wait, the real John Bruce has already done that to himself lots of times.

Zing!!!

kurisu7885 - i know ive seen some on the internet somewhere. However, im having a hard time finding them now, and the usual places seem to be hinting that someones been busy with the old threats......

:confused:

kurisu7885

01-27-2007, 06:46 PM

Zing!!!

kurisu7885 - i know ive seen some on the internet somewhere. However, im having a hard time finding them now, and the usual places seem to be hinting that someones been busy with the old threats......

:confused:

Damn!!! Well, I guess I could get a pic of him and try my hand at the photo wizard. I do need to get myself some experience using it anyway. If anyone finds one, lemme know. I just downloaded and incendiary bomb I'm itchin to use. And I think the Saddam and Hitler skins will be great buddies for him :D

Darth_Toxic

01-27-2007, 07:43 PM

And I think the Saddam and Hitler skins will be great buddies for him :D

Not big enough - I've got an awesome SATAN skin, and since everyone knows these two are good buddies in real life, it'd be realistic to have them as roomies in-game.

kurisu7885

01-27-2007, 08:18 PM

Not big enough - I've got an awesome SATAN skin, and since everyone knows these two are good buddies in real life, it'd be realistic to have them as roomies in-game.

Good thing I know where I can get soem of them. 7 deadly sims carries some great stuff

Darth_Toxic

01-27-2007, 08:37 PM

7 deadly sims carries some great stuff

Damn straight!

Yukimura

01-29-2007, 03:38 AM

Hey, check it out, jacky boy is gonna debate in Californa tomarow.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07029/757708-51.stm

kurisu7885

01-29-2007, 03:46 AM

Hey, check it out, jacky boy is gonna debate in Californa tomarow.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07029/757708-51.stm

OH boy, he gets to be owned again I hope.

GreyPoet

01-31-2007, 12:11 PM

Any word on the debate at California University of Pennsylvania last night?

Cecil475

01-31-2007, 03:28 PM

Any word on the debate at California University of Pennsylvania last night?

http://gamepolitics.com/2007/01/29/jack-thompson-debates/

- Warren Lewis

01-31-2007, 03:39 PM

The guy who gave him the finger is epic.

IanCharles@gmail.com

01-31-2007, 04:40 PM

Oh boy, imagine how that wil be reported....

They will ignore the fact JT ignored him, tried to twist it etc, and just say "video gamer sticks finger up a noted anti-game lawyer"

Cecil475

01-31-2007, 04:48 PM

Oh boy, imagine how that wil be reported....

They will ignore the fact JT ignored him, tried to twist it etc, and just say "video gamer sticks finger up a noted anti-game lawyer"

I wonder how (and if) Thompson will use this against gamers later?

- Warren Lewis

01-31-2007, 05:15 PM

I wonder how (and if) Thompson will use this against gamers later?

- Warren Lewis

That the 'cranial menu' includes an option to give people the finger?

Darth_Toxic

01-31-2007, 05:21 PM

Seeing as you can actually flip people off in GTA 3, I'm expecting something along the lines of...

JT: OMG! He learn't it from Gee-Tee-Aye!

Cecil475

01-31-2007, 07:49 PM

I wonder what else was said at the debate. All the news items I see on the subject are announcements for it.

- Warren Lewis

Yukimura

01-31-2007, 09:20 PM

I've Vowed to avoid ever being in the same room as that dirtbag cause I would be to tempted to beat the Ever loving crap outta him. few people on earth have ever made me angry enough that I would seek violence against them, and Jack is one of the very very few, right next to the drunk driver that killed my friend ashly.

So, better it was Namer rather then me at that debate. Least with him it didn't come to blows like it would have with me.

Mastersword

01-31-2007, 10:11 PM

My rage against this man knows no bounds when he tried to blame every "bad kid" he could possibly find on a game like GTA. Games are not what cause violent kids in America since only a few actually pretend to be in the game in real life. I wouldn't be surprised if he played violent games himself just for fun so we can blame him for it.

Grahamr

02-01-2007, 01:22 AM

The guy who gave him the finger is epic.

All i see is a GP article heralding the debate. Where is info on the debate itself??

IanCharles@gmail.com

02-01-2007, 12:31 PM

So he has a dig at this site, insults an entire generation and claims he "won".

Pretty much par for the course, eh?

edit - ooooh, he did name check GP implying that he reads it daily.

Jack also mentioned, explicitly, gamepolitics.com, hinting that he reads it daily.

In a rare note of clarity, he does call for moderation of those who are at the risk of “wasting their lives” with playing video games incessantly. Unfortunately, he seems to feel that nearly any amount of game playing is a waste of time.
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He only believes in the definition of art with the Classical Greek definition: that is, art is something that is “good, beautiful and true”. He uses this argument excessively to call pretty much any existing game as “not possibly art”. He also refuses to believe that video gaming is by-and-large a social activity.

And Jack keeps saying that violent video games are targetted at and advertised to youths. He has yet to back up this statement. He crusades by talking about his victory with the Boston subway ads, without thinking about who subway ads actually target.

. wow, eh? Any amount of playing is a waste of time? gaming is anti-social (so all those multi player games must not exist!) and as for this victory on the boston subway ads, was he even involved in that?

02-01-2007, 12:47 PM

I wish the guy read the forums. Exposure to /OT/ would be epic.

nightwng2000

02-01-2007, 01:21 PM

The fact is that "big applause" came from typical, sound bite, verbal abuse. Call a group of people names and get applause because of ignorance.

Fortunately, I am an intelligent individual and would not stoop to such dishonorable acts as accusing an entire group of humans (except bigots themselves) of being guilty of any act, positive or negative. After all, it would be pretty easy to lay certain stereotypes on his own generation.

No, this was no debate from the sounds of it. This was nothing more than a stroke to his over bloated ego. It had nothing to do with spreading "facts" as he falsely claims. It has to do more with building up the list of sound bites and misinformation he can spread.

And in all honesty, I seriously doubt anyone of any intelligence made any comments about being in agreement with him as he claims.

I call it a faux debate with no real winner. Just a show for the media to push his agenda.

Kincyr

02-01-2007, 04:52 PM

evidently, Jack still goes on about the relations between vidoegame violence and real violence, so I submit this (http://loserz.scribblekid.org/index.php?id=605) which proves that by Jack's logic, videogames have serious health benefits.

nightwng2000

02-02-2007, 01:46 PM

http://media.www.dailycollegian.com/media/storage/paper874/news/2007/02/02/EditorialOpinion/Rated.R.For.Restricted-2692534.shtml?sourcedomain=www.dailycollegian.com&MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com

kurisu7885

02-02-2007, 02:32 PM

Something strieks me as odd. As far as I know, JT is IP banned from GP, yet said he reads it daily. However, when I was IP banned form GP, I couldn't read the site, at all.

02-02-2007, 02:39 PM

Something strieks me as odd. As far as I know, JT is IP banned from GP, yet said he reads it daily. However, when I was IP banned form GP, I couldn't read the site, at all.

I think he 'used' 'l33t' 'hax' to 'access' the 'website'.

kurisu7885

02-02-2007, 02:44 PM

I think he 'used' 'l33t' 'hax' to 'access' the 'website'.

Would he even know how to do that? I mean, we know how much of a technophobe he is.

02-02-2007, 02:45 PM

Would he even know how to do that? I mean, we know how much of a technophobe he is.

He has a son.

beemoh

02-02-2007, 03:25 PM

Something strieks me as odd. As far as I know, JT is IP banned from GP, yet said he reads it daily. However, when I was IP banned form GP, I couldn't read the site, at all.

Where does he say that? He has even gone as far as to criticize Dennis for the fact that he can't access the site, so I'm struggling to make sense of this.

(Then again, he could be using a thirdparty RSS reader)

Cecil475

02-02-2007, 04:22 PM

Where does he say that? He has even gone as far as to criticize Dennis for the fact that he can't access the site, so I'm struggling to make sense of this.

(Then again, he could be using a thirdparty RSS reader)

Two words:Public Computer.

His Home/Work computer might not be able to access the site but a computer at a libary or a internet cafe might. All he has to do is not post and no one knows he on. Therefore he does not get banned and he is able to keep viewing the site.

- Warren Lewis

02-03-2007, 04:32 PM

I think the Florida Bar missed one offense in that list: Crimes against Nature. Anyone as stupid as Jack Thompson has to be bad for the environment.

Seriously.

So, who thinks he'll actually get disbarred?

It took ****ing forever for Fred Phelps to get disbarred, and he's a walking crime against humanity.

Mastersword

02-03-2007, 04:35 PM

It took ****ing forever for Fred Phelps to get disbarred, and he's a walking crime against humanity.

It's not just going to be humanity, but he'll reach a level where he is so bat **** insane that he starts messing with other species.

neoelasticman

02-04-2007, 03:32 AM

This might be the end for Thompson. Here's to hoping.

RaZor

02-04-2007, 11:31 AM

Oh, wow, Kobra, that was harsh.

In other news, I'm really intrigued to see how this all will turn out. Thompson, doubtless, will blame others for any disciplinary action taken against him. I wonder if any useless lawsuits will result?

On the other end of things, if Jack doesn't get nailed for anything, will he just take it as further validation of his cause, kinda like his being "certified sane"? Trust me, I've taken psych evals, and if you know the classical symptoms, they're pretty easy to fake your way through.