View Full Version : More BS from Faux News...
Seriously, I want to see someone try to defend this...
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3570
As if this news station couldn't get even more bias. A Republican comes out as a online pervert, and Faux News labels him a Democrat...
Now that is utter bull****...
kurisu7885
10-04-2006, 07:38 PM
This is about as bad as when a school shooting happens and they quickly play the video game angle, or when they were talking to Mr. Ladonne and kept asking over and over if he was taking responsibility for that school shooting in Montreal.
I was expecting "Liberal HAX0RS have CRACKED the Internets, placing incriminating evidence in strategic locations. They also stole my credibility. I'm really not this bad, I SWEAR!"
Tollwutig
10-04-2006, 09:21 PM
Amusing
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Amusing
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I actually find it kinda...enraging...
ZippyDSMlee
10-05-2006, 05:01 AM
Just trying to get all the fact don't hate me for trying to grasp the reality of it all.
I have heard off cnn he was no longer a page and was 17 at the start of the messaging yes?
if thats true whats the crime? I think 17 is legal for most word "foreplay" its the deed thats frowned apon,even if this went to a annoyance block him and be done with it..I dunno maybe I am seeing a conspiracy in everything ><
he lead himself to the trap they locked him up and the republicans know nothing and thinks hes a demi....and the world turns...to puke
Silver_Derstin
10-05-2006, 10:07 AM
The Daily Show ran that in their show. I think even Jon Stewart almost had an heart-attack there, especially after he ran all those things at Fox News about how it was probably the Democrats fault.
The Daily Show ran that in their show. I think even Jon Stewart almost had an heart-attack there, especially after he ran all those things at Fox News about how it was probably the Democrats fault.
I'm watching that now on Comedy Network.
EDIT: I ****ing love the Daily Show! Samantha Bee rocks!
Thefremen
10-05-2006, 02:44 PM
Just trying to get all the fact don't hate me for trying to grasp the reality of it all.
I have heard off cnn he was no longer a page and was 17 at the start of the messaging yes?
if thats true whats the crime? I think 17 is legal for most word "foreplay" its the deed thats frowned apon,even if this went to a annoyance block him and be done with it..I dunno maybe I am seeing a conspiracy in everything ><
he lead himself to the trap they locked him up and the republicans know nothing and thinks hes a demi....and the world turns...to puke
16 years and there were IMs that were absolutely disgusting. More and more connected people are coming out and saying that higher up members of the GOP knew about it and found it inappropriate and dangerous but did nothing.
ZippyDSMlee
10-05-2006, 02:47 PM
16 years and there were IMs that were absolutely disgusting. More and more connected people are coming out and saying that higher up members of the GOP knew about it and found it inappropriate and dangerous but did nothing.
Why did CNN say 17 when the messages started??
least thats what they said on air,as for the cover up well its a cover up *L*
16 years and there were IMs that were absolutely disgusting. More and more connected people are coming out and saying that higher up members of the GOP knew about it and found it inappropriate and dangerous but did nothing.
But according to Faux News, they're actually all Democrats. Republicans can do no wrong! And if they do, they're Democrats!
Silver_Derstin
10-05-2006, 04:36 PM
16 years and there were IMs that were absolutely disgusting. More and more connected people are coming out and saying that higher up members of the GOP knew about it and found it inappropriate and dangerous but did nothing.
It's clear those liberal demons, the Devilcrats, are the ones making those innocent GOP members talk.
ZippyDSMlee
10-05-2006, 07:10 PM
But according to Faux News, they're actually all Democrats. Republicans can do no wrong! And if they do, they're Democrats!
SO that makes Bush,Chaney and Rummy Democrats because non have screwed up mroe than them.....
Here is The Daily Show's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myef63LgltU) coverage of this Faux News bull. Man, I love it!
By the way, anyone know who this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sahBchNgnRc) is? Damn, man, now THAT is journalism!
EDIT: Nevermind, answered it myself. (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/10/05/conservative-bloggers-prey-on-abused-kids/) He also burned O'Reilly on the mistake, and at the end, basically straight out told O'Reilly that he had a bigger dick then O'Reilly! Hahaha!
ZippyDSMlee
10-05-2006, 08:53 PM
Here is The Daily Show's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myef63LgltU) coverage of this Faux News bull. Man, I love it!
By the way, anyone know who this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sahBchNgnRc) is? Damn, man, now THAT is journalism!
EDIT: Nevermind, answered it myself. (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/10/05/conservative-bloggers-prey-on-abused-kids/) He also burned O'Reilly on the mistake, and at the end, basically straight out told O'Reilly that he had a bigger dick then O'Reilly! Hahaha!
Keith Oberman? hes pretty good I like his show,O'rilye really is fun to diss he just takes himself way to sreoiues.
I wish Jon wouldn't mix edialpile and pedophilia one is more legit than the other....
"Faux news" :D - good one! I've never heard that one before. Did you come up with that all by yourself?
Seriously, I want to see someone try to defend this...
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3570
As if this news station couldn't get even more bias. A Republican comes out as a online pervert, and Faux News labels him a Democrat...
So, rather than noticing that the letters 'D' an 'R' are close to each other on the keyboard, and thinking that the one guy whose job is to type in the captions for the television station accidentally hit the wrong key, then copy-pasted it (or just re-used it) for the other label, you automatically assume it's a Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy. Paranoid much?
It's also possible that the one guy whose job is to type in the captions for the television station was playing a joke. It's also possible that the one guy whose job is to type in the captions for the television station was biased like you say and did it on purpose.
I see nothing in this incident that proves any kind of bias with Fox News. I see nothing in this incident that proves that Fox News is run by or even influenced by the Republican Party.
Thefremen
10-07-2006, 04:06 PM
"Faux news" :D - good one! I've never heard that one before. Did you come up with that all by yourself?
So, rather than noticing that the letters 'D' an 'R' are close to each other on the keyboard, and thinking that the one guy whose job is to type in the captions for the television station accidentally hit the wrong key, then copy-pasted it (or just re-used it) for the other label, you automatically assume it's a Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy. Paranoid much?
It's also possible that the one guy whose job is to type in the captions for the television station was playing a joke. It's also possible that the one guy whose job is to type in the captions for the television station was biased like you say and did it on purpose.
I see nothing in this incident that proves any kind of bias with Fox News. I see nothing in this incident that proves that Fox News is run by or even influenced by the Republican Party.
What the hell? Who said that Fox News is run by or influenced by the Republican party? They have a bias that favors the GOP when it comes to the production and what stories are shown. O'Reily is actually a pretty good example of one of the show hosts who doesn't always agree with others on the network because he's more of a Conservative than a Republican.
The reason people are suspicious is because in past O'reily shows, it seems like they've done some amazing work in post production to fix him. Like when he accused American GIs of commiting atrocities in Germany near the end of WW2, then they changed his words on the transcript to be historically accurate.
It's somewhat hard to believe that when they are aware of O'Reilly's penchant for getting things mixed up that they wouldn't have their best men working on the graphics, etc.
Why people are suspicious? When a dog quacks it's just a mistake, but when a duck quacks it's obviously further proof that it is a duck.
Like how you and your buddies will see something on CNN about Darfur and you'll say "OMG THOSE LIBERAL HIPPIES WITH THEIR LEFT WING GAY AGENDA! LOLROTFL!".
ZippyDSMlee
10-07-2006, 04:56 PM
"Faux news" :D - good one! I've never heard that one before. Did you come up with that all by yourself?
So, rather than noticing that the letters 'D' an 'R' are close to each other on the keyboard, and thinking that the one guy whose job is to type in the captions for the television station accidentally hit the wrong key, then copy-pasted it (or just re-used it) for the other label, you automatically assume it's a Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy. Paranoid much?
It's also possible that the one guy whose job is to type in the captions for the television station was playing a joke. It's also possible that the one guy whose job is to type in the captions for the television station was biased like you say and did it on purpose.
I see nothing in this incident that proves any kind of bias with Fox News. I see nothing in this incident that proves that Fox News is run by or even influenced by the Republican Party.
it hpapened 3 tiems in a row...on the same show..one would think one would have caught it....
"Faux news" :D - good one! I've never heard that one before. Did you come up with that all by yourself?
So, rather than noticing that the letters 'D' an 'R' are close to each other on the keyboard, and thinking that the one guy whose job is to type in the captions for the television station accidentally hit the wrong key, then copy-pasted it (or just re-used it) for the other label, you automatically assume it's a Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy. Paranoid much?
It's also possible that the one guy whose job is to type in the captions for the television station was playing a joke. It's also possible that the one guy whose job is to type in the captions for the television station was biased like you say and did it on purpose.
I see nothing in this incident that proves any kind of bias with Fox News. I see nothing in this incident that proves that Fox News is run by or even influenced by the Republican Party.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v363/King_nintendoid/pixor/incorrect.jpg
"Faux news" :D - good one! I've never heard that one before. Did you come up with that all by yourself?
So, rather than noticing that the letters 'D' an 'R' are close to each other on the keyboard, and thinking that the one guy whose job is to type in the captions for the television station accidentally hit the wrong key, then copy-pasted it (or just re-used it) for the other label, you automatically assume it's a Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy. Paranoid much?
It's also possible that the one guy whose job is to type in the captions for the television station was playing a joke. It's also possible that the one guy whose job is to type in the captions for the television station was biased like you say and did it on purpose.
I see nothing in this incident that proves any kind of bias with Fox News. I see nothing in this incident that proves that Fox News is run by or even influenced by the Republican Party.
Also, the O'Reilly Factor is PRETAPED, meaning they had pleanty of time to fix the error before it aired - which they didn't...
ZippyDSMlee
10-07-2006, 05:29 PM
everyone knows CNN leans left and Fox leans right....only some know Fox leans ARCH right.
Thefremen
10-07-2006, 06:01 PM
Also, the O'Reilly Factor is PRETAPED, meaning they had pleanty of time to fix the error before it aired - which they didn't...
Yeah, they did it the time Ann Coulter went topless and the time Micheal Moore mooned him.
What the hell? Who said that Fox News is run by or influenced by the Republican party?
Nobody here, but I have heard it stated elsewhere.
They have a bias that favors the GOP when it comes to the production and what stories are shown.
And CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, BBC, and Al Jazeera all have a bias that favors the Democratic Party when it comes to the production and what stories are shown. Why aren't you complaining about them, hypocrite.
O'Reily is actually a pretty good example of one of the show hosts who doesn't always agree with others on the network because he's more of a Conservative than a Republican.
The reason people are suspicious is because in past O'reily shows, it seems like they've done some amazing work in post production to fix him. Like when he accused American GIs of commiting atrocities in Germany near the end of WW2, then they changed his words on the transcript to be historically accurate.
It's somewhat hard to believe that when they are aware of O'Reilly's penchant for getting things mixed up that they wouldn't have their best men working on the graphics, etc.
Why people are suspicious? When a dog quacks it's just a mistake, but when a duck quacks it's obviously further proof that it is a duck.
Fox News doesn't decide who works on O'Reilly's show. The producers of the show do. An error on O'Reilly's show is an error by O'Reilly's show, not Fox News. Do you honestly believe the network takes the time to watch every minute of every show they are going to air? Do any of the other networks do that? I doubt it.
Like how you and your buddies will see something on CNN about Darfur and you'll say "OMG THOSE LIBERAL HIPPIES WITH THEIR LEFT WING GAY AGENDA! LOLROTFL!".
Actually, I rarely watch CNN. And I rarely watch Fox News. And most of my buddies are Democrats. I've even been called a hippie myself on more than one occasion. You should stop assuming you're smarter than you actually are.
it hpapened 3 tiems in a row...on the same show..one would think one would have caught it....
And Thefremen misspelled O'Reilly three times in a row...in the same post...one would think one would have caught it...
Also, the O'Reilly Factor is PRETAPED, meaning they had pleanty of time to fix the error before it aired - which they didn't...
Again, you're assuming somebody watched the show in it's entirety at some point between when it taped and when it aired. The had no reason too. And even if they did, they had no reason to be checking to make sure every letter of text was correct. When it aired, and somebody actually watched it, it was fixed.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v363/King_nintendoid/pixor/incorrect.jpg
Uh, I didn't make a conclusion. I'm the one who said there is not enough evidence to make a conclusion. You lose.
ZippyDSMlee
10-07-2006, 08:38 PM
Beej
So you are saying O'Reilly's editing staff is as good as this form when it coems to spelling and grammar? 0-o
CNN is leans left but not at the cost of fudging the truth because if they did every right wing pundant would never let them live it down.
O'Reilly's went over the edge years ago I havn't heard him apologize for its mistakes on the show radio or TV in nearly 3+ years,atone time he was quick with correcting himself and being right,now like Olberman said hes more loud than truthful...0-o
guess after the whole Intern scandal a few years back (yes god O'Reilly's was cought trying to do the cliton ) he kinda waffled and became more loud than the old stern common sense Bill I liked in days past....
A crapload of bull****
Yeah, now I know why I liked (crazy-)republican-free GP so much.
We'll have to make the best of it.
Beej
So you are saying O'Reilly's editing staff is as good as this form when it coems to spelling and grammar? 0-o
I'm saying that O'Reilly's editing staff, like this forum, is made up of human beings who occasionally make mistakes.
CNN is leans left but not at the cost of fudging the truth because if they did every right wing pundant would never let them live it down.
I seem to recall hearing about many right wing pundits pointing out mistakes made by CNN, CBS, MSNBC, ABC, etc. The difference seems to be that according to the people who like to point out the various network's mistakes, CNN makes "mistakes", while Fox "fudges the truth".
Yeah, now I know why I liked (crazy-)republican-free GP so much.
We'll have to make the best of it.
Ahh, I see King Nintendoid is still using his superior argument style, where he actually argues the points being made with logic and facts rather than just using profanity and name-calling. (Remember the Gun Rights Thread?)
By the way, I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the Republican Party. You lose. Again.
Ace_ofspade
10-07-2006, 09:51 PM
And CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, BBC, and Al Jazeera all have a bias that favors the Democratic Party when it comes to the production and what stories are shown. Why aren't you complaining about them, hypocrite.
We aren't talking about "73h 3\/1I_ 1_183r41_5!!!!!111one" or even about parties at all. This is about one of the most widely watched "trusted" news networks getting their facts wrong. Plain and simple, no excuses, they ****ed up. In short, they're both dirty bastards.
The thread looks so much better now that it is Beej-less.
But yeah, about that 'liberal bias' in the media... except for FOX News (Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, John Gibson, Neil Cavuto, Steve Doocy, E.D. Hill, Brian Kilmeade, Brit Hume), Clear Channel, Laura Ingraham, Dr. Laura, Rush Limbaugh, Hugh Hewitt, Ann Coulter, Newsmax, G. Gordon Liddy, Michael Reagan, Michael Savage, The New York Post, Sinclair Broadcast Group (WLOS13, Fox 45, WTTO21, WB49, KGAN, WICD, WICS, WCHS, WVAH, WTAT, WSTR, WSYX, WTTE, WKEF, WRGT, KDSM, WSMH, WXLV, WURN, KVWB, KFBT, WDKY, WMSN, WVTV, WEAR, WZTV, KOTH, WYZZ, WPGH, WGME, WLFL, WRLH, WUHF, KABB, WGGB, WSYT, WTTA), David Horowitz, Rupert Murdoch, PAX, and MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, he's right.
(yes, that was copy-pasted, because no mere person can memorize all of your originally-named networks)
Thefremen
10-07-2006, 10:19 PM
First off, Monica, or Beej, or BJ or whatever, nobody here said FOX news was owned etc. by the Grand Old Party so don't bring it up, k? Over here, we commonly accuse it of being wholly owned by the Whig party and Rupurt Murdoch is its puppet.
Sorry if I didn't complain about it here, but yes, most news outlets have a liberal bias. Not necessarily Democrat, but Liberal. That means that they tend to be harsh on poor Mrs. Clinton.
I'm as smart as I think I am, I'm just not a good judge of people unlike you who can read 2 posts by someone on a forum and understand their whole life's history.
We aren't talking about "73h 3\/1I_ 1_183r41_5!!!!!111one" or even about parties at all. This is about one of the most widely watched "trusted" news networks getting their facts wrong. Plain and simple, no excuses, they ****ed up. In short, they're both dirty bastards.
So, if I point out one single mistake in one letter in a caption on one show that aired on CBS, will you say that CBS "****ed up" and that they are all a bunch of "dirty bastards" with as much passion as you have for Fox News.
Like I said, one show, got one letter wrong. Not the network, the show. The OP of this thread was about how one show, mixed up one letter, and therefore the entire network must be biased. Sorry, I'm not buying it. If you want to say the show "****ed up" and everyone involved with the show are "dirty bastards", I might be willing to accept that. But extending those sentiments to the entire network based on one single letter on one show just doesn't cut it.
If you want to prove the network and everyone involved with it are "dirty bastards", you're going to have to show me more than one letter on one show, which nobody on this thread has done.
Garbage Pail Kid
10-07-2006, 11:29 PM
Spoken or typed, did they ever actually use the word Democrat?
First off, Monica, or Beej, or BJ or whatever,
You went to the King Nintendoid School of Debate, didn't you?
nobody here said FOX news was owned etc. by the Grand Old Party so don't bring it up, k?
You're right, nobody here did, including me.
Sorry if I didn't complain about it here, but yes, most news outlets have a liberal bias. Not necessarily Democrat, but Liberal. That means that they tend to be harsh on poor Mrs. Clinton.
At least you're willing to admit that. Eventually. Thanks.
I'm as smart as I think I am, I'm just not a good judge of people unlike you who can read 2 posts by someone on a forum and understand their whole life's history.
I'm stupid. Life's easier that way. Nobody expects anything out of you.
I've never claimed to know your (or anyone here's) "whole life's history". I have never made assumptions, stated or otherwise, about any poster's habits, beliefs, or political leanings. Because I'm well aware of the fact that I don't know you.
You on the other had judged me and made a statement about me "and my buddies'" habits, beliefs and political leanings after only reading two of my posts.
Like how you and your buddies will see something on CNN about Darfur and you'll say "OMG THOSE LIBERAL HIPPIES WITH THEIR LEFT WING GAY AGENDA! LOLROTFL!".
Ace_ofspade
10-08-2006, 01:11 AM
So, if I point out one single mistake in one letter in a caption on one show that aired on CBS, will you say that CBS "****ed up" and that they are all a bunch of "dirty bastards" with as much passion as you have for Fox News.
Thats what I meant- both networks, both parties.
Monica doesn't like it when reality interesects the little bubble in which he lives.
Look Monica: we know you are conservative. You ****ing love guns. You have used the word 'liberal', which any person in their right mind knows means something completely different than what you make of it. You have defended Fox News.
There's a slight chance you are a libertarian, but you really smell like a republican to me.
Monica doesn't like it when reality interesects the little bubble in which he lives.
The pot calling the stainless steel frying pan black. I'm not the one who "clicked ignore", stuck my fingers in my ears and ran away shouting "No! No! I refuse to even hear anything that goes against my fragile belief system!"
Look Monica: we know you are conservative.
You obviously know absolutely nothing about me. You can't even get my name right.
You ****ing love guns.
Actually, I don't "****ing love guns". While I do enjoy shooting at little circles on paper, I am disgusted by the people who use them irresponsibly. Guns are a brutal and barbaric way to kill someone. They are also, however, a fairly good way to stop someone who is attacking you.
You have used the word 'liberal', which any person in their right mind knows means something completely different than what you make of it.
Ok, I've re-read every post I've made here and can't find a single time when I used that word. Please quote the post for me.
You have defended Fox News.
No, I haven't. I have simply not made the leap from "Oh, there's a typo in that caption" to "OMG FAUX NEWS IS EEEVILLLL!!!!"
There's a slight chance you are a libertarian, but you really smell like a republican to me.
:rolleyes:
There's a slight chance you're following the forum rules, but you smell like King Nintendoid to me.
Thefremen
10-08-2006, 02:06 PM
You went to the King Nintendoid School of Debate, didn't you?
It's a well known fact that I'm a prof. at that University with tenure.
I'm stupid. Life's easier that way. Nobody expects anything out of you.
Nah, you're a pretty clever hobbitses. I also never make claims of vast superior intelligence as Theory? usually out does me. I can only make claim to the occassional witticism and I can sometimes make it through a post without bad spelling. In my writing I cannot live without F7.
I've never claimed to know your (or anyone here's) "whole life's history". I have never made assumptions, stated or otherwise, about any poster's habits, beliefs, or political leanings. Because I'm well aware of the fact that I don't know you.
You on the other had judged me and made a statement about me "and my buddies'" habits, beliefs and political leanings after only reading two of my posts.
Yeah, exactly. I was making a self-depreciating joke. In the vein of Conan O'Brian.
I don't think Monica knows who he's talking to *shrugs*
And actually Monica, I put you on my ignore list so I can regulate how much I am exposed to your posts. I generally view them, but only when I feel like it. And sweety, you've had PLENTY of posts on the old GP forum. Don't think that because those are gone I can't say what those entailed anymore.
ZippyDSMlee
10-08-2006, 02:50 PM
I don't think Monica knows who he's talking to *shrugs*
And actually Monica, I put you on my ignore list so I can regulate how much I am exposed to your posts. I generally view them, but only when I feel like it. And sweety, you've had PLENTY of posts on the old GP forum. Don't think that because those are gone I can't say what those entailed anymore.
*blink blink*
no archives yet?
*blink blink*
no archives yet?
Nope.
Actually, it's a pretty funny yet depressing story as to why Dennis decided to just get rid of the old forums, but I don't think he'd appreciate me telling you that in the open.
GamePolitics
10-08-2006, 03:00 PM
King N, the story was simply that it was a much simpler matter to start anew than try to move the old stuff to another server, particularly trying to coordinate it with the timing of the domain being forwarded to the new server.
I was working with Vbulletin on that and not getting 100% assurances that it would even work right, so I opted to do it this way.
Not sure what you're referring to. Why don't you PM me on that...
ZippyDSMlee
10-08-2006, 03:47 PM
Nope.
Actually, it's a pretty funny yet depressing story as to why Dennis decided to just get rid of the old forums, but I don't think he'd appreciate me telling you that in the open.
ah ok,a shame but oh well.
You may PM me for details
Grahamr
10-08-2006, 05:24 PM
Guns are a brutal and barbaric way to kill someone.
So are your fists,swords,axes,spears,bow and arrows,rocket launchers,crossbows,grenades,ETC.
Your point?
Both of you,quit arguing. your starting to lose your sence of civility. i want you to both stop! i'm not trying to become the moral watchdog,i just don't want to see people banned.
Anjin-San
10-08-2006, 05:35 PM
- Always respect each other. This is a very large forum that has members from all over the place. Everyone has their own ideals and whatnot, so please respect that. If you disagree, discuss it in a civilzed manner. Remember, debate the subject, not the person.
Self-explanatory, now chill and relax...dare I say, chillax?
So are your fists,swords,axes,spears,bow and arrows,rocket launchers,crossbows,grenades,ETC.
Your point?
My point is, King Nintendoid was wrong about me. Again.
Shhh. KN, I suggested hushing. Now you are.
Tsst!
OMGZ YOU STOLE MY EDITING COLOUR :@ - KN
My point is, King Nintendoid was wrong about me. Again.
Then, please, enlighten us by telling us a little about yourself? Are you a Liberal? Conservative? Libertarian? Democrat? Republican? Green?
As for me blamming Fox for O'Reilly...how is it any different on the other side with people saying CNN has a Liberal or Democrat bias? I mean, between Lou Dobbs being a paleoconservative, Glenn Beck being a conservative or neoconservative, Jack Cafferty, Nancy Grace...I dunno about her, but she seems pretty right-wing...the only balatant liberals I can think of on CNN is Anderson Cooper...
Thefremen
10-08-2006, 08:03 PM
Then, please, enlighten us by telling us a little about yourself? Are you a Liberal? Conservative? Libertarian? Democrat? Republican? Green?
As for me blamming Fox for O'Reilly...how is it any different on the other side with people saying CNN has a Liberal or Democrat bias? I mean, between Lou Dobbs being a paleoconservative, Glenn Beck being a conservative or neoconservative, Jack Cafferty, Nancy Grace...I dunno about her, but she seems pretty right-wing...the only balatant liberals I can think of on CNN is Anderson Cooper...
Nancy Grace is a dem. On the issue of video games (IE: they make u kill!) and a conservative on crime (kill em all and let God sort them out!).
Anderson Cooper actually turns a 180 on some issues but then it's a 360 and he's back with the democrats.
ZippyDSMlee
10-08-2006, 08:17 PM
Nancy Grace is a dem. On the issue of video games (IE: they make u kill!) and a conservative on crime (kill em all and let God sort them out!).
Anderson Cooper actually turns a 180 on some issues but then it's a 360 and he's back with the democrats.
Ggaaaaaa Nacy Grace is a media whore every time I see her on TV I plug my ears or change channels...I don't mind Anderson Cooper he seems level headed.
Then, please, enlighten us by telling us a little about yourself? Are you a Liberal? Conservative? Libertarian? Democrat? Republican? Green?
No. It doesn't matter. That's the point. What I am does not matter. What you are does not matter. What matters is the issue in the first post of the thread.
As for me blamming Fox for O'Reilly...how is it any different on the other side with people saying CNN has a Liberal or Democrat bias? I mean, between Lou Dobbs being a paleoconservative, Glenn Beck being a conservative or neoconservative, Jack Cafferty, Nancy Grace...I dunno about her, but she seems pretty right-wing...the only balatant liberals I can think of on CNN is Anderson Cooper...
It isn't any different. Fox News also has shows whose hosts are of varied political positions. If someone on "the other side" (although, I would like to think we're all on the same side, trying to make America better, but you might feel differently) made a similar claim to yours based on a single typo in a single program, I would be making the same argument to them.
So, point me to some evidence that Fox News is biased. Point me to some evidence that the network has purposely reported false information. Point me to some evidence that the network is purposely lying to make the Republican Party look better.
You've made the claim, I'm just asking you to back it up. So far, all you've proven is that Bill O'Reilly employs an intern who occasionally makes typographical errors.
It isn't any different. Fox News also has shows whose hosts are of varied political positions. If someone on "the other side" (although, I would like to think we're all on the same side, trying to make America better, but you might feel differently) made a similar claim to yours based on a single typo in a single program, I would be making the same argument to them.
So, point me to some evidence that Fox News is biased. Point me to some evidence that the network has purposely reported false information. Point me to some evidence that the network is purposely lying to make the Republican Party look better.
You've made the claim, I'm just asking you to back it up. So far, all you've proven is that Bill O'Reilly employs an intern who occasionally makes typographical errors.
Unfortunately, that one typo makes a world of a difference. Especially for people who watch Fox News exclusively, and now think Mark Foley is a Democrat.
It's like that one incident on MSNBC, I believe, during Black History Month. They were interviewing a guy named Niger, and accidently added an extra 'g' in his name. It was a mistake, but it made a world of a difference.
ESPECIALLY SINCE IT WAS A PRE-RECORDED SHOW, SO THEY HAD HOURS TO NOTICE AND FIX IT BUT DIDN'T...
Now, sorry, I know I was blaming Fox News for Bill O'Reilly, but they didn't have "the views and opinions expressed on this program do not represent the Fox News or it's Associates" warning...
Unfortunately, that one typo makes a world of a difference. Especially for people who watch Fox News exclusively, and now think Mark Foley is a Democrat.
But did they say he was a Republican? If so, the letter becomes moot. If they called him a Republican, people are more likely to think he's a Republican than seeing a letter on the screen. They will probably think that somebody typed in the wrong letter on the screen. At the very least, they'll be confused enough to want to know the truth.
Does anyone know where I can see a video of the entire segment, or better yet the entire show? The one they show on the link from the post is too short to tell what was said about the guy. It needs to be taken in context to really be able to say anything about it.
It's like that one incident on MSNBC, I believe, during Black History Month. They were interviewing a guy named Niger, and accidently added an extra 'g' in his name. It was a mistake, but it made a world of a difference.
And yet nobody is posting that on websites as proof that MSNBC is biased to the extreme left.
ESPECIALLY SINCE IT WAS A PRE-RECORDED SHOW, SO THEY HAD HOURS TO NOTICE AND FIX IT BUT DIDN'T...
Again, what reason would they have to watch the entire show from beginning to end between the time it was taped and the time it aired?
Now, sorry, I know I was blaming Fox News for Bill O'Reilly, but they didn't have "the views and opinions expressed on this program do not represent the Fox News or it's Associates" warning...
Nor should they. Just like they don't have one of those warnings before "American Idol". Are you next going to start complaining that [whichever network it is that airs "American Idol"] is a shill for the KKK because Simon claimed that one black girl couldn't sing when it was so obvious to you that she could?
But did they say he was a Republican? If so, the letter becomes moot. If they called him a Republican, people are more likely to think he's a Republican than seeing a letter on the screen. They will probably think that somebody typed in the wrong letter on the screen. At the very least, they'll be confused enough to want to know the truth.
Does anyone know where I can see a video of the entire segment, or better yet the entire show? The one they show on the link from the post is too short to tell what was said about the guy. It needs to be taken in context to really be able to say anything about it.
Same here, actually. YouTube has shown me nothing. If anything, I'm willing to bet they just referred to him as Congressman or Former-Congressman Mark Foley.
And yet nobody is posting that on websites as proof that MSNBC is biased to the extreme left.
The MSNBC incident happened a while ago. Also, MSNBC admitted to their mistake and gave out an apology. http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/innis.htm
Again, what reason would they have to watch the entire show from beginning to end between the time it was taped and the time it aired?
Editing?
Nor should they. Just like they don't have one of those warnings before "American Idol". Are you next going to start complaining that [whichever network it is that airs "American Idol"] is a shill for the KKK because Simon claimed that one black girl couldn't sing when it was so obvious to you that she could?
Just for kicks...Fox airs American Idol...
Though, two things with that.
1) It was the personal opinion of Simon. Beyonce will have fans who think she can sing and critic who think otherwise. Now, unless it was O'Reilly or whoever made the typo's opinion that Mark Foley is a Democrat, it doesn't make it true. If so, it's my opinion pigs can fly, even though they can't.
2) Whoever makes that absurd accusation is just playing the Race Card. Simon never said anything like "only white people can sing" or "black people can't sing", and to jump to the conclusion that he's racist all because he doesn't like one singer's, who happens to be black, voice is just wrong.
Dear Beejay,
I would suggest taking a look around Wikipedia before you dismiss a claim because no one is backing it up. Nobody HAS to back it up anymore. Also, very link links are awesome. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel_controversies)
Silver_Derstin
10-09-2006, 11:01 AM
*butts in just for ****s and giggles*
R and D ARE pretty close on a keyboard. On a different row, though. And quite different when you just look at them. And make a world of difference when you actually look at them from a political standpoint in the United States.
Fox News failed there, and it was quite likely intentional on the part of some people at the station if it went by without problems.
Ever read 1984, everyone? This is a great example of how you can change facts if you know how to do it...
Anjin-San
10-09-2006, 11:14 AM
This is so incredibly infantile. A mere typo. At maximum, it would've been a subtle jab, if at all.
You guys watch TV for your news?! PFFT!
Silver_Derstin
10-09-2006, 11:27 AM
This is so incredibly infantile. A mere typo. At maximum, it would've been a subtle jab, if at all.
Did Fox apologize for it yet? Did they openly admitted "We made a typo on that show at that time, and we'd like to say we're sorry."
As long as they don't, it's not a mere typo, but an actual attempt at altering reality in a 1984esque way.
Anjin-San
10-09-2006, 11:38 AM
Usama Bin Laden lately? They've done it for years out of arrogance, not misinformation. The fact that a mere letter "enraged" somebody when it's a moot point that they hate being wrong, is hilarious. I mean, it's not a stretch to say the argument is that of Jack's fall back "BLANK ROME IS BEHIND THIS!" A letter changed for some vast conspiracy to change American history as viewed by the future?
If you're having trouble seeing where I'm coming from, say it out loud to yourself.
Samson Effect
10-09-2006, 01:46 PM
Did Fox apologize for it yet? Did they openly admitted "We made a typo on that show at that time, and we'd like to say we're sorry."
As long as they don't, it's not a mere typo, but an actual attempt at altering reality in a 1984esque way.
Also, how many times was that mistake made, was it just once, or did it happen several times? Because if it happened more than once, then we can be REALLY leery of it.
Also, how many times was that mistake made, was it just once, or did it happen several times? Because if it happened more than once, then we can be REALLY leery of it.
It happened on three different occassions, during three different videos.
Samson Effect
10-09-2006, 02:00 PM
It happened on three different occassions, during three different videos.
I saw one clip on the Daily Show, and as much as I love Jon Stewart, and felt that moment's condescending slow clap was well-deserved, it was only one instance. If it's happened three times, THAT is a problem, that looks like Fox News is fudging.
Not like, in the same video segment, like they cut away from the guy and there he is again, complete with the typo. This was a completel different segment in the show. And it happened 3 times.
No way nobody noticed that.
ZippyDSMlee
10-09-2006, 02:45 PM
Not like, in the same video segment, like they cut away from the guy and there he is again, complete with the typo. This was a completel different segment in the show. And it happened 3 times.
No way nobody noticed that.
I mean really O'rilye is a neat freak and when something is out of place he usealy hammers it back into palce he use to not miss much ...
Silver_Derstin
10-09-2006, 03:08 PM
Not like, in the same video segment, like they cut away from the guy and there he is again, complete with the typo. This was a completel different segment in the show. And it happened 3 times.
No way nobody noticed that.
It was JUST a typo, man. That happened 3 times. And nobody noticed it. On the Number 1 Pro-Republican station on the air. Just drop it, okay? /sarcasm
Same here, actually. YouTube has shown me nothing. If anything, I'm willing to bet they just referred to him as Congressman or Former-Congressman Mark Foley.
Speculation isn't going to work here. I'm willing to bet the reason nobody can find a complete video is because they clearly referred to him as a Republican.
Editing?
I was under the impression from the one time I watched the show for more than a second that it was essentially taped "live" and shown later, so the only time they would have to edit would be if something major happened, like a light falling on the host, that everyone could clearly see was a problem.
But ok, I'll assume for a minute that the show is taped, then extensively editted for broadcast later. If that's the case, the subtitles probably would have been added in post-production, so my argument still stands that they would not have had any reason to watch the show between when the typo was put in and when it aired.
Just for kicks...Fox airs American Idol...
Though, two things with that.
1) It was the personal opinion of Simon. Beyonce will have fans who think she can sing and critic who think otherwise. Now, unless it was O'Reilly or whoever made the typo's opinion that Mark Foley is a Democrat, it doesn't make it true. If so, it's my opinion pigs can fly, even though they can't.
2) Whoever makes that absurd accusation is just playing the Race Card. Simon never said anything like "only white people can sing" or "black people can't sing", and to jump to the conclusion that he's racist all because he doesn't like one singer's, who happens to be black, voice is just wrong.
So you're ok with the fact that a show that airs on Fox does not directly reflect the views of the network, but you still believe a show that airs on Fox News directly reflects the views of the network. Could you please explain to me how you justify that?
Dear Beejay,
I would suggest taking a look around Wikipedia before you dismiss a claim because no one is backing it up. Nobody HAS to back it up anymore. Also, very link links are awesome. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel_controversies)
Dear King Nintendoid,
Generally, in a debate, it is the job of those making the claim to back that claim up with evidence. In the case of this thread, the assumption is that Fox News is unbiased, the claim is that Fox News is biased to the extreme right. It works this way because one can not prove a negative. There is no way to prove there is no bias, because there is no amount of evidence that can prove absence of something.
So those of you making the claim must provide the evidence to prove your claim. I'm not going to do your job for you. Up until your post, the only evidence presented was one typo on one show that happens to air on the network.
I thank you for being the only person to actually present the evidence I have asked for. While wikipedia can not be held up as the ultimate source of truth, (far from it, actually), I promise I will read your evidence later, as I don't have the time right at this moment.
R and D ARE pretty close on a keyboard.
Yes, they are, as I've already pointed out. It would be very easy for someone to hit one instead of the other.
On a different row, though. And quite different when you just look at them. And make a world of difference when you actually look at them from a political standpoint in the United States.
Right, but none of that proves that the letter was purposely changed by the network.
Fox News failed there, and it was quite likely intentional on the part of some people at the station if it went by without problems.
I disagree. The mistake was made by the O'Reilly show, not the network. It just happens to be a show on a network which you have already decided is biased to the extreme right. In reality, the network had absolutly nothing to do with this.
This is so incredibly infantile. A mere typo. At maximum, it would've been a subtle jab, if at all.
I suppose it is possible that the intern who typed in the caption actually thought he was a Democrat. Still doesn't prove any kind of conspiracy on the part of the network.
Did Fox apologize for it yet? Did they openly admitted "We made a typo on that show at that time, and we'd like to say we're sorry."
Why would they have to? The mistake was with the O'Reilly show. You should be demanding an apology from them.
As long as they don't, it's not a mere typo, but an actual attempt at altering reality in a 1984esque way.
Again, I wouldn't go quite that far. I think I'll start demanding apologies for every single typo on this board.
Also, how many times was that mistake made, was it just once, or did it happen several times? Because if it happened more than once, then we can be REALLY leery of it.
It is my understanding that it happened 3 times, in 2 different segments. I've already described what I believe to be the most likely cause, (a typo, propagated with a copy-paste), but you can continue to believe it was the cause of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy if you want to.
I saw one clip on the Daily Show, and as much as I love Jon Stewart, and felt that moment's condescending slow clap was well-deserved, it was only one instance. If it's happened three times, THAT is a problem, that looks like Fox News is fudging.
Again, the network had nothing to do with it. It happened on a show that just happens to be aired on Fox News.
It was JUST a typo, man. That happened 3 times. And nobody noticed it. On the Number 1 Pro-Republican station on the air. Just drop it, okay? /sarcasm
Yep, a typo. That happened to get shown (the same typo, not 3 different ones) three times. On a network that nobody here has yet proven has a Republican slant.
..he REALLY believes Fox News isn't at least MODERATLY biased towards the Republican party.
That's... sad
Anjin-San
10-10-2006, 12:13 AM
Lord, the moot points. Fox News once sponsored the GOP's convention.(Can't remember which year it was) It's not a vast conspiracy when it's overt. That said, this talk about a mere typo is so...dumbtarded, words (especially that fake one) don't do it justice.
Sooooooooooooooo......
Here's how your arguments sound in my mind:
Group enters dark, unlit room. They're smoking cigars. A man is crying.
Rupert Murdoch: Sancho, we've heard about your problems with the authorities. We can make the stripper's death a bad memory.
Sancho: But how? So...so much blood...every-whe-*Painfully sobs*
Rupert Murdoch: Simple. Do you know how to operate Microsoft Word?
Sancho: No.
Murdoch then produces "Mario Teaches Typing" from his pocket and inserts it into a nearby computer. Several hours later, Sancho now has a firm grasp of proper typing technique.
Rupert Murdoch: Yes. YEEEEESSHHEEE. *Spittle leaves mouth*
Men at the Boardroom of Evil (complete with blood pentagram on the ceiling) collectively twirl their moustaches.
Rupert Murdoch: I want you....to do the impossible. NAY. The unthinkable.
Sancho: Make a David Lynch film that makes sense?
Evil boardroom men do a And1 Mixtape Tour sort of "OH SNAP" collectively.
Rupert Murdoch: No. I want you to change an R...into a D.
Sancho: May God forgive me...please, tell my wife I was a good man. Let her remember me as I was!
Sean Hannity enters the room.
Hannity: You leave that to me.
Lord, the moot points. Fox News once sponsored the GOP's convention.(Can't remember which year it was) It's not a vast conspiracy when it's overt. That said, this talk about a mere typo is so...dumbtarded, words (especially that fake one) don't do it justice.
Sooooooooooooooo......
Here's how your arguments sound in my mind:
Group enters dark, unlit room. They're smoking cigars. A man is crying.
Rupert Murdoch: Sancho, we've heard about your problems with the authorities. We can make the stripper's death a bad memory.
Sancho: But how? So...so much blood...every-whe-*Painfully sobs*
Rupert Murdoch: Simple. Do you know how to operate Microsoft Word?
Sancho: No.
Murdoch then produces "Mario Teaches Typing" from his pocket and inserts it into a nearby computer. Several hours later, Sancho now has a firm grasp of proper typing technique.
Rupert Murdoch: Yes. YEEEEESSHHEEE. *Spittle leaves mouth*
Men at the Boardroom of Evil (complete with blood pentagram on the ceiling) collectively twirl their moustaches.
Rupert Murdoch: I want you....to do the impossible. NAY. The unthinkable.
Sancho: Make a David Lynch film that makes sense?
Evil boardroom men do a And1 Mixtape Tour sort of "OH SNAP" collectively.
Rupert Murdoch: No. I want you to change an R...into a D.
Sancho: May God forgive me...please, tell my wife I was a good man. Let her remember me as I was!
Sean Hannity enters the room.
Hannity: You leave that to me.
..that.. was brilliant.
Let me wuv youuu ^_^
ZippyDSMlee
10-10-2006, 06:39 PM
I was thinking it was a Freudian slip,that was never cought 0-o
LOL
Garbage Pail Kid
10-10-2006, 06:51 PM
I was thinking it was a Freudian slip,that was never cought 0-o
LOL
I've never heard anyone Freudian slipping on a keyboard.
@Anjin-San: That was hilarious.
Demontestament
10-10-2006, 07:01 PM
How anyone can watch the Fox News channel and can't tell they lean to the right is beyond me. Anytime the crap they spew out and present as "news" is on I want to find the reporters and beat them with a bat. On certain stories they only give one half of it, while in others they totally make **** up. But there are people out there who take anything any news media says as the truth. I have learned to look into matters myself, most of the time you find out things that the media "conveniently" left out, and I am not just talking about Fox News.
And in my own opinion the R to a D thing, was not just a mistake, and if that is the case. They need to fire the moron who made that mistake numerous times.
If it was a mistake, and they didn't catch it, then they would've said "woops" pretty soon after the episode aired, like a good news outlet.
If it was deliberate, they would wait for such a long time with the apology that people will still be thinking he's a Democrat (if they are that stupid, and quite frankly, if you keep believing something like that for this long, you must be) during Congress elections.
If it was a mistake, and they didn't catch it, then they would've said "woops" pretty soon after the episode aired, like a good news outlet.
If it was deliberate, they would wait for such a long time with the apology that people will still be thinking he's a Democrat (if they are that stupid, and quite frankly, if you keep believing something like that for this long, you must be) during Congress elections.
November is almost here. So expect an apology on on November 8th or 9th...
Lord, the moot points. Fox News once sponsored the GOP's convention.(Can't remember which year it was) It's not a vast conspiracy when it's overt. That said, this talk about a mere typo is so...dumbtarded, words (especially that fake one) don't do it justice.
Sooooooooooooooo......
Here's how your arguments sound in my mind:
Group enters dark, unlit room. They're smoking cigars. A man is crying.
Rupert Murdoch: Sancho, we've heard about your problems with the authorities. We can make the stripper's death a bad memory.
Sancho: But how? So...so much blood...every-whe-*Painfully sobs*
Rupert Murdoch: Simple. Do you know how to operate Microsoft Word?
Sancho: No.
Murdoch then produces "Mario Teaches Typing" from his pocket and inserts it into a nearby computer. Several hours later, Sancho now has a firm grasp of proper typing technique.
Rupert Murdoch: Yes. YEEEEESSHHEEE. *Spittle leaves mouth*
Men at the Boardroom of Evil (complete with blood pentagram on the ceiling) collectively twirl their moustaches.
Rupert Murdoch: I want you....to do the impossible. NAY. The unthinkable.
Sancho: Make a David Lynch film that makes sense?
Evil boardroom men do a And1 Mixtape Tour sort of "OH SNAP" collectively.
Rupert Murdoch: No. I want you to change an R...into a D.
Sancho: May God forgive me...please, tell my wife I was a good man. Let her remember me as I was!
Sean Hannity enters the room.
Hannity: You leave that to me.
Wow, I see it so clearly now! How could I ever think there wasn't a conspiracy. :D
It's all really just a matter of perspective. Having only watched Fox News for a total of about an hour since they came on the air, I have the perspective of a blind man, and I see nothing. People on the extreme left, however, have the perspective that Fox News is to their extreme right, and claim that Fox News is on the extreme right. People on the extreme right, see it as being on the left.
So, which is correct? All of them, depending on where you are.
Wow, I see it so clearly now! How could I ever think there wasn't a conspiracy. :D
It's all really just a matter of perspective. Having only watched Fox News for a total of about an hour since they came on the air, I have the perspective of a blind man, and I see nothing. People on the extreme left, however, have the perspective that Fox News is to their extreme right, and claim that Fox News is on the extreme right. People on the extreme right, see it as being on the left.
So, which is correct? All of them, depending on where you are.
People on the extreme right do not claim Fox is on the left. They claim Fox is the only thing that doesn't have the fabled 'liberal bias'.
People on the extreme right do not claim Fox is on the left. They claim Fox is the only thing that doesn't have the fabled 'liberal bias'.
Well, there is this guy (http://www.aim.org/media_monitor/4292_0_2_0_C/) that I found with a quick search. There's probably more, but I don't feel like searching right now.
Well, there is this guy (http://www.aim.org/media_monitor/4292_0_2_0_C/) that I found with a quick search. There's probably more, but I don't feel like searching right now.
Yeah, because one article by one guy, in which he quotes a few people seriously makes for good counter-evidence against the millions of Republicans who love Fox News to death.
It's like saying Joe Liebermann is a posterboy for the entire Democratic Party
Jabrwock
10-11-2006, 05:15 PM
If Fox had apologized and corrected it, I would have given them some respect. But Bill O'Reilly is incapable of admitting when he's wrong. He's still got that grudge against France, and even the cafeteria of Congress has given up on that childish behavior.
Instead of apologizing, when the Factor was re-aired, they just blacked out the bottom of the screen instead of posting the correct text.
Fox declared it doesn't need to apologize, because "everyone knows Foley is a Rep..."
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3583
Yeah, because one article by one guy, in which he quotes a few people seriously makes for good counter-evidence against the millions of Republicans who love Fox News to death.
Nobody said it did. It was counter-evidence to your claim that nobody on the far right claims Fox News is on the left. I found at least one example of someone who did, thus proving you wrong.
If Fox had apologized and corrected it, I would have given them some respect. But Bill O'Reilly is incapable of admitting when he's wrong. He's still got that grudge against France, and even the cafeteria of Congress has given up on that childish behavior.
Instead of apologizing, when the Factor was re-aired, they just blacked out the bottom of the screen instead of posting the correct text.
Fox declared it doesn't need to apologize, because "everyone knows Foley is a Rep..."
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3583
Like I've stated many times already, Fox News has no reason to apologize. If anyone needs to apologize, it would be Bill O'Reilly. You've admitted he won't do it, so why are you expecting an apology?
Demontestament
10-11-2006, 06:11 PM
Nobody said it did. It was counter-evidence to your claim that nobody on the far right claims Fox News is on the left. I found at least one example of someone who did, thus proving you wrong.
Like I've stated many times already, Fox News has no reason to apologize. If anyone needs to apologize, it would be Bill O'Reilly. You've admitted he won't do it, so why are you expecting an apology?
Honestly I don't know why anyone cares, Bill O'Reilly is a ****ing moron as it is, as are those who believe anything that come out of his mouth(my opinion). He never apologizes for anything that happens on his show, if anything he tries and back it up. Yeah it was a **** up, intentional or not anyone who really thinks ths guy is a dem because the Tee Vee told them is a dumbass, since it is reported all over the place that he is a Republican.
The fox news channel does seem to be way far on the right, despite what people say, all you have to do is watch they **** the have on there and see for yourself. Alot of the dumbass remarks I have heard recently have come from that channel.
Samson Effect
10-11-2006, 06:18 PM
So apparently, it happened again. Keith Olbermann segment on the incident. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6o9kutZBqU) Chafee, a Republican, labeled a Democrat, and Whitehouse, a Democrat, labeled a Republican.
/pour fuel on fire
Jabrwock
10-11-2006, 06:39 PM
Like I've stated many times already, Fox News has no reason to apologize. If anyone needs to apologize, it would be Bill O'Reilly. You've admitted he won't do it, so why are you expecting an apology?There's a difference between wanting an apology and expecting one. No I don't expect one from O'Reilly, or any Fox executive. Do I still want one? Yes, because they screwed up. Is it that hard to do a 5 second correction? Newspapers do it all the time.
So apparently, it happened again. Keith Olbermann segment on the incident. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6o9kutZBqU) Chafee, a Republican, labeled a Democrat, and Whitehouse, a Democrat, labeled a Republican.
/pour fuel on fire
Democrat envy...hahaha!
Seriously...try to defend this **** up...I dare ya...
ZippyDSMlee
10-11-2006, 08:43 PM
Fox news is starting to do what the white house dose....
"we don't make mistakes...we cant make mistake.....god is on our side"
0-o
Democrat envy...hahaha!
Seriously...try to defend this **** up...I dare ya...
People can defend anything.
Otherwise they can still say "uuuuuuuuh JOE LIEBERMAN!"
WHich sadly is a pretty good argument T_T
ZippyDSMlee
10-11-2006, 10:24 PM
People can defend anything.
Otherwise they can still say "uuuuuuuuh JOE LIEBERMAN!"
WHich sadly is a pretty good argument T_T
which is all the more reason that each person should only get 1 term in any single office every 3 years and not 2 years + in a row....we need to kill all these professional politicians dead and do it quick...because they are killing us....
Silver_Derstin
10-12-2006, 09:15 AM
So apparently, it happened again. Keith Olbermann segment on the incident. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6o9kutZBqU) Chafee, a Republican, labeled a Democrat, and Whitehouse, a Democrat, labeled a Republican.
Well, that's just two more typos because the letters are close on the keyboard (being on separate rows and all...)
Where did Beej go all of the sudden? Siberia?
Anjin-San
10-12-2006, 11:15 AM
If you're debating, it's about the issue, not the person. I liken it to mentioning Jack Thompson in every situation involving a video-game whatsoever.
If you're debating, it's about the issue, not the person. I liken it to mentioning Jack Thompson in every situation involving a video-game whatsoever.
But in a debate, there are two sides. Beej is the only one on the other side. Without him/her, it's...boring...
Anjin-San
10-12-2006, 11:20 AM
Okay, I'll take up the mantle. You're all out of your minds. It was a typo.
Hoohah!
Silver_Derstin
10-12-2006, 11:38 AM
Okay, I'll take up the mantle. You're all out of your minds. It was a typo.
Hoohah!
That was sort of a low blow, really...
Okay, I'll take up the mantle. You're all out of your minds. It was a typo.
Hoohah!
You forgot the 'Fox doesn't need to apologize for the mistakes it makes' argument.
Anjin-San
10-12-2006, 11:42 AM
They're arrogant. I don't expect them to. Again, Usama bin Laden? Everyone got it except you dimwitted gamers. Fried brains....cocaine use...umm....
HOOHAH!
Jabrwock
10-12-2006, 02:27 PM
They're arrogant. I don't expect them to. Again, Usama bin Laden? Everyone got it except you dimwitted gamers. Fried brains....cocaine use...umm....
HOOHAH!
# /fish Anjin-San
# You dance around in front of Anjin-San before slapping them with a halibut.
:p
Dennis is the only one who needs a strong cup of coffee this morning. ;)
ZippyDSMlee
10-12-2006, 02:33 PM
while we are on the subject of cckups has any other news outlet messed up like fox and apologized ASAP? or did they ignore it and move on?
while we are on the subject of cckups has any other news outlet messed up like fox and apologized ASAP? or did they ignore it and move on?
I recall such events taking place during the last two elections. A lot of networks called it early (including Fox) and apologized fairly quickly.
Tollwutig
10-12-2006, 03:37 PM
It is traditional when such errors are made, even if they are made just because of a typo, to issue a correction. Typically such an issue is done during the same broadcast time so as to catch the viewers who were affected.
Also Fox News should issue the correction or ask O'Reilly to do so. You see O'Reilly's show is carried by Fox News, and it pays the producers of O'Reilly's show for the content. So for carrying the mistake on thier signal they are responsible for the content.
Don't believe me?
NBC was held liable by the FCC for the infamous Wardrobe Malfunction. NBC did not produce the Superbowl Halftime show, that was done by the NFL. The NFL produced the show but because NBC carried this over thier airwaves were responsible for it, legally even.
Television Channels are responsible for all content carried on thier signal. IF they make a mistake, or an intentional error, they are responsible for the correction.
Jabrwock
10-12-2006, 04:29 PM
An exellent point. Plus the fact that the O'Reilly show isn't just aired by Fox, it's produced BY Fox. So I'm having a hard time understanding the whole "why are you blaming Fox, clearly it was an O'Reilly Factor screwup" argument. If "The Situation Room" screwed up, wouldn't it be reasonable to hold CNN/Time Warner responsible?
An exellent point. Plus the fact that the O'Reilly show isn't just aired by Fox, it's produced BY Fox. So I'm having a hard time understanding the whole "why are you blaming Fox, clearly it was an O'Reilly Factor screwup" argument. If "The Situation Room" screwed up, wouldn't it be reasonable to hold CNN/Time Warner responsible?
Yes, but only because they're Liberal Communist Anti-Christian ACLU Loving Democrats.
ZippyDSMlee
10-12-2006, 04:45 PM
Mmmm aren't Communist's just a group of people that submit theme self's to total rule by the government?
altho thats the problem the government then has to much power in a capitalist's setup the corporations have to much rule...whatever happened to us being a simple republic ;_;
Silver_Derstin
10-12-2006, 04:53 PM
Mmmm aren't Communist's just a group of people that submit theme self's to total rule by the government?
Uh.... No much? Maybe you should read the wiki article on it, along with the article on Karl Marx...
ZippyDSMlee
10-12-2006, 05:00 PM
Uh.... No much? Maybe you should read the wiki article on it, along with the article on Karl Marx...
Dictatorships can grow from any government altho more likely from a Communist's setup because the government has absolute rule and thus can make itself into a war machine rather easily,I wodner since you guys know more are there any Communist's governments that managed to get to that holy point of manageing its population and its government without waging (cival or otherwise) war every few years/months?
I think democracy can work but only if corporations are not allowed to rape (financial or otherwise) and pillage.
But then again half arsed democracy has gotten humanity this far 0-o
Silver_Derstin
10-12-2006, 05:17 PM
Zippy, DEMOCRACY is not a political ideology... It's a support for pretty much any political ideology, from liberalism (what the US was built on), conservatism (what the US has become) and communism (what Communism is supposed to be).
Communism does acknowledge the fact that you need a dictator for a few years after the revolution, but then it's supposed to be switched over to a regular democracy.
Thefremen
10-12-2006, 05:29 PM
Zippy, DEMOCRACY is not a political ideology... It's a support for pretty much any political ideology, from liberalism (what the US was built on), conservatism (what the US has become) and communism (what Communism is supposed to be).
Communism does acknowledge the fact that you need a dictator for a few years after the revolution, but then it's supposed to be switched over to a regular democracy.
Kind of like how in the US govt it has been recognized that we need a dictator for a few years after a terrorist attack. Then it's supposed to switch to a constitutional Monarchy.
ZippyDSMlee
10-12-2006, 05:31 PM
Thefremen
scary 0-o
Silver_Derstin
10-12-2006, 05:43 PM
Kind of like how in the US govt it has been recognized that we need a dictator for a few years after a terrorist attack. Then it's supposed to switch to a constitutional Monarchy.
Or a good old totalitarian monarchy. I mean, the people won't know the difference anyways...
Thefremen
10-12-2006, 07:47 PM
Or a good old totalitarian monarchy. I mean, the people won't know the difference anyways...
True. Won't be long until the proletariat is completely illiterate instead of just functionally illiterate.
Silver_Derstin
10-13-2006, 11:37 AM
True. Won't be long until the proletariat is completely illiterate instead of just functionally illiterate.
And again, nobody will know the difference.
So, I take it that Beej offically left the forums? Or refuses to reply to this?
PWNED, anyone?
ZippyDSMlee
10-13-2006, 07:04 PM
So, I take it that Beej offically left the forums? Or refuses to reply to this?
PWNED, anyone?
Even they get tired of saying the same thing over and over again.
So, I take it that Beej offically left the forums? Or refuses to reply to this?
PWNED, anyone?
Actually, I have this thing called a "job", which requires me to go to a place called "The Office", where a man known as "The Boss" pays me to do things for him.
It takes up most of my time, because you people get really annoyed when your games get released late.
PWNED, indeed.
ZippyDSMlee
10-13-2006, 07:33 PM
Actually, I have this thing called a "job", which requires me to go to a place called "The Office", where a man known as "The Boss" pays me to do things for him.
It takes up most of my time, because you people get really annoyed when your games get released late.
PWNED, indeed.
As long as you are alive and well and still here :3
It can get boring without differentiating views :3
You mean boring without the barking puppy ^^
And Beej, now that I see you're not actually defending Fox anymore (can you at this point) and have gone into some form of.. I dunno.. trolling behaviour... I must sue you. Only I can exhibit trolling behaviour, as you once noted.
Actually, I have this thing called a "job", which requires me to go to a place called "The Office", where a man known as "The Boss" pays me to do things for him.
It takes up most of my time, because you people get really annoyed when your games get released late.
PWNED, indeed.
Yay! You're back!
Now, please, back read a bit. We need someone on the other side to defend Fox and their second mess-up again.
Also, I too have a 'job', where a 'boss' pays me to do stuff for him. Unfortunately, it's not the good kind of 'stuff'...
Anjin-San
10-13-2006, 09:25 PM
Typo! For The Love Of God! Typo!
Hoohah!
Thefremen
10-13-2006, 09:53 PM
So Beej has been watching a marathon of The Office and listening to Springsteen records?
Anyhow, his rant reminded me of that episode of spongebob where squidward stayed with him...."...when I have a JOB to do I hire someone whose JOB it is to do that JOB!".
Speaking of Fox, I saw Coulter on there the other day and I think she's like that one dude who gets younger as the painting gets older, except for her she's linked with the Republican Party. Like, the better they're doing the better she looks. I say this because she looked awful, even for her!
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